ripnix 0 Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) What cameras do you know of that meet the following requirements (or as many of them as possible): 1) Is IP based/wireless 2) Can record in total darkness (or at least near total darkness, b&w is OK) 3) Doesn't deliver choppy playback when viewed over high speed internet (Fiber-link, 7Mb/s) 4) Will still work at low temperatures of -15C or at high of 42C (for the next 3-5 years) 5) Has Wireless G but I would settle for wired also 6) Is a popular camera so that perhaps I can find one used on eBay 7) Works with Security Monitor Pro maybe, at least doesn't needs special software to buy Has motion detections and can send an alert to phone/email 9) Price: $200 for a new or used one I plan on using it for surveillance of my backyard (cam doesn't have to be weatherproof as I can mount the camera in my shed through a window at the back of my backyard), still the temperatures will be this winter under -15C I'd appreciate you sharing your knowledge with me in this matter. Thank you PS: is it possible to take even a cheap camera and wrap it in some thermal insulating tape so that it last at low temperatures? Edited November 21, 2011 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Korgoth Of Barbaria 0 Posted November 17, 2011 2) Can record in total darkness (or at least near total darkness, b&w is OK) cam doesn't have to be weatherproof as I can mount the camera in my shed through a window If you want to record in total darkness you need IR leds. IR leds behind window = bad idea Camera will be blinded by reflection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ljarrald 0 Posted November 17, 2011 2) Can record in total darkness (or at least near total darkness, b&w is OK) cam doesn't have to be weatherproof as I can mount the camera in my shed through a window If you want to record in total darkness you need IR leds. IR leds behind window = bad idea Camera will be blinded by reflection. but you could disable the cameras IR and use a cheap £10 outdoor IR illuminator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Securame 0 Posted November 17, 2011 You had many options until you reached point 9. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted November 17, 2011 Price: $200 for a new or used one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssmith10pn 0 Posted November 17, 2011 cheap [cheep] Show IPA adjective, -er, -est, adverb, noun adjective 1. costing very little; relatively low in price; inexpensive: a cheap dress. 2. costing little labor or trouble: Words are cheap. 3. charging low prices: a very cheap store. 4. of little account; of small value; mean; shoddy: cheap conduct; cheap workmanship. 5. embarrassed; sheepish: He felt cheap about his mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ljarrald 0 Posted November 17, 2011 What cameras do you know of that meet the following requirements (or as many of them as possible): Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Korgoth Of Barbaria 0 Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) This is what You get for ~170$ here in Poland: Edited November 21, 2011 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripnix 0 Posted November 18, 2011 2) Can record in total darkness (or at least near total darkness, b&w is OK) cam doesn't have to be weatherproof as I can mount the camera in my shed through a window If you want to record in total darkness you need IR leds. IR leds behind window = bad idea Camera will be blinded by reflection. ok, didnt think about that ... then it needs to be outdoor my biggest problem is the temperature thing ... last night we had -6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripnix 0 Posted November 18, 2011 This is what You get for ~170$ here in Poland: thank you for the suggestion i found also this one: FI8905W $75-100 http://foscam.us/products/foscam-fi8905w-outdoor-wireless-ip-camera-23.html LogiLink WC0016 $183 http://www.logilink.eu/showproduct/WC0016.htm?seticlanguage=en and i dont know which to take, if the price difference is really worthy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Korgoth Of Barbaria 0 Posted November 18, 2011 This is what You get for ~170$ here in Poland: thank you for the suggestion i found also this one: FI8905W $75-100 http://foscam.us/products/foscam-fi8905w-outdoor-wireless-ip-camera-23.html LogiLink WC0016 $183 http://www.logilink.eu/showproduct/WC0016.htm?seticlanguage=en and i dont know which to take, if the price difference is really worthy? OMG Foscam, I hate those cams, its like webcamera with ethernet port. I used them once, and I wont do it again. Just like "Grand IP cameras" - SUCKs HARD! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ljarrald 0 Posted November 18, 2011 when you link to youtube videos can you press the youtube button so it embeds? makes life a little easier :} Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripnix 0 Posted November 21, 2011 This is what You get for ~170$ here in Poland: thank you for the suggestion i found also this one: FI8905W $75-100 http://foscam.us/products/foscam-fi8905w-outdoor-wireless-ip-camera-23.html LogiLink WC0016 $183 http://www.logilink.eu/showproduct/WC0016.htm?seticlanguage=en and i dont know which to take, if the price difference is really worthy? OMG Foscam, I hate those cams, its like webcamera with ethernet port. I used them once, and I wont do it again. Just like "Grand IP cameras" - SUCKs HARD! well thing is that the AVTech AVN252 on ebay is 222 EURO, and the only suppliers are from US, which means ill have to pay something to customs so i have to chose from the foscam and the LogiLink any other suggestions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
securitysys 0 Posted November 21, 2011 well thing is that the AVTech AVN252 on ebay is 222 EURO, and the only suppliers are from US, which means ill have to pay something to customs so i have to chose from the foscam and the LogiLink any other suggestions? Honestly you will not be happy with any of those cameras. Spend a bit more and buy a decent camera like a Vivotek 8362. Or just go with a cheap DVR and a decent analog camera, it will get you better picture quality in the AVN252. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripnix 0 Posted November 22, 2011 well thing is that the AVTech AVN252 on ebay is 222 EURO, and the only suppliers are from US, which means ill have to pay something to customs so i have to chose from the foscam and the LogiLink any other suggestions? Honestly you will not be happy with any of those cameras. Spend a bit more and buy a decent camera like a Vivotek 8362. Or just go with a cheap DVR and a decent analog camera, it will get you better picture quality in the AVN252. i know your right, but still when you dont got the money you need to take what u can the ip8362 is $900, i dont even earn that much in a month ... so its not a bit more, its huge there are many solutions under the 200 mark, but i was asking around to see which is better, or reliable then the other, cause i know that i cant expect quality at this price, but still im hoping that others from experience can tell me some models which where ok a professional firm is asking for $300 to install a surveillance system (dont know any details), well at this price i dont think it would be of any quality so why should i pay someone else to do it when i could do it for less and maybe at the same or better quality now from the searches that i did i found out that the best thing would be if i could find a outdoor camera that complies with the IP67 standard (has Fan and Heater), but i guess there is no way that i could find one under 200 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites