mikez 0 Posted November 29, 2011 I'm thinking of grabbing two of these on ebay. What do you guys think by looking at the specs? Image Device 1/3" Exview HAD CCD II (ICX672/3AKA) DSP Device Effio-E (CXD4127GG,CXD4816GG) Resolution Color Mode: 650TVL; B/W Mode:700TVL Picture Elements PAL:976(H)×582(V); NTSC:976(H)×494(V) IR Led & IR Range 72pcs IR Led; 150' IR Distance Min. Illumination 0.001 Lux (F2.0)/ 0 Lux IR On Lens Furnished 2.8-12mm Manual Zoom Lens TV System NTSC (PAL SPECIAL ORDER, PLEASE CALL) Electronic Shutter NTSC:1/60~1/100,000, PAL:1/50~1/110,000 S/N Ratio More than 52dB Gamma 0.45 Exposure Auto Shutter/ AGC Auto/Manual White Balance ATW / User1/User2 Backlight OFF/ON/BLC/ HLC Picture Adjust Mirror/Brightness/Contrast/Sharpness/Hue/Gain ATR ON/OFF Motion Det OFF/ON(Detect sense/ Area Sel) Privacy Masking OFF/ON (4 Zone) Day/Night True Day and Night (Auto/ Day / Night / Ext. D&N) 2D-NR OFF/ON (Y/C level) Camera ID OFF/ON Sync. System Internal Video Output 1 Vp-p / 75 Ohms Power Supply DC12V±10% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ctbaker 0 Posted November 29, 2011 I looked at 700TVL eBay cameras last week and typically they don't show the branding which makes me assume they are coming over from China and it makes me question the authenticity of the parts. ie Sony CCD. Anyone shed any light on this as well when answering the OP's question? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joseph.chen0312 0 Posted December 11, 2011 Hi all, If you are not sure does it authentoticity of part, you could check toggle button to operate the function but sometimes not all parameter is design in for limited space on board. if you need I could send you effio-e spec for your reference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KPC 0 Posted December 16, 2011 I picked up one of these cameras from ebay a month or so ago. It is an alright camera. I have it in the default setting. When in 2.8 (wide) mode, at night when the IR's kick on, they create port hole effect, meaning there is a white circle surrounding the outter most portion of the monitor, (not a huge issue) but in nighttime ir setting, I don't think you are getting a full 2.8 because of the white circle blocking out some of the picture on the monitor. You'd be getting more like 3-4mm of actual viewing on the monitor. secondly, the camera is not a true day & night. it is electronic day & night. True day & night uses a mechanical IR cut filter (a servo motor physically moves a filter infront of the camera, to block IR in the daytime, and at night when the camera switches to black & white, the servo retracts the filter). That is what happens with a REAL TRUE day & night camera. This camera, uses electronic day & night. Meaning, the camera tries to adjust color during the daytime to compensate for the IR washout, and at night it switches over to black & white. I was a bit upset when the camera arrived and found that it was not true mechanical ir cut filter, when in the specs it is advertised as true day & night. Not a huge issue when it comes to picture quality, but it just upset me that it was advertised as being true day & night and when I got it I found that it was electronic day & night. Also, the housing is huge, leading the buyer to believe that there is some serious "meat & potatos" or "guts" when it comes to the camera, but the huge housing is all for show. I unscrewed the front of the camera, and it is nothing but a tiny board camera mounted inside a huge housing. Say the body of the camera is about 8 inches long (not including the mounting bracket). The board camera inside with IR illuminators are only about 2 inches deep. There is 6 inches of empty space of the camera body housing. The housing is made big to just give you a feeling that you are getting more for your money. Now on the other hand, I bought one of the 700tvl effio-e turret cameras (they advertised it in the title on eBay as a dome camera, but there is a difference between a dome and a turret style camera, this is technically a turret camera, not a dome camera), the turret looks like an eyeball & socket, where I'm sure you already know what a dome camera looks like. The 700tv turret cam that I bought on ebay was a fixed 3.6mm and I'm more pleased with that camera, than I am with the 700tvl effio-e 2.8-12mm bullet camera. Simply due to the fact that I didn't have to set the focal length or focus (the 3.6mm is set to a fixed 3.6mm and comes prefocused), plus the turret design is so simple to mount and aim. Plus it is a fraction of the size of the 2.8-12mm bullet that you are looking at, because as I mentioned above, the bullet camera is oversized just to give you a false feeling of you are getting more for your money, but I like the simplicity & compact design of the 700tvl effio-e turret camera, plus the fixed 3.6mm is a good general purpose wide field of view lens, and with it being prefocused, it is a easy installation. So right now I'm using a 4 channel DVR running 7.5fps full d1 every channel. I'm using a Cyberdome PTZ (just for fun) The other 3 cameras are 1. CNB 3.6mm bullet cam (this cam is the generation before the mona lisa chipset came out), I got it new in the unopened box off eBay for like $15, it is 600tvl, it is nothing too fancy but it is a good little camera for the price that I paid. 2. the 700tvl effio-e bullet (the same one you are inquiring about) 3. the 700tvl effio-e turret - 3.6mm fixed lens, I really like this camera Right now I'm saving up for a Qvis Apollo HD 16 channel DVR to upgrade from my 4 channel dvr. Once I buy the Qvis DVR, for the other 12 channels, I'm going to experiment with one of the VCM-24VF CNB dome cameras that everyone talks alot about on here. I'd also like to try out one of the Samsung Dome or Bullet cameras, the bullet cams would be the SCO-2080, they also make a SCO-2080R which the R symbolizes that the camera has onboard IR illuminators, but I don't really care for onboard IR, due to bugs constantly flying around the camera because of the IR. I have played around with using seperate IR illuminators (cheap ones bought on eBay for about $10-15), they are a turret design, with about 48 ir leds. I prefer to position them several feet away from the camera pointing in the same direction as the camera. In the warmer months when the bugs are out in full strength, having the illuminators away from the cameras really cuts down on bugs flying in front of the camera at night. Cause the bugs are attracted to the ir illuminators, and since those are positioned several feet to the side of the camera, the bugs tend to cling around the ir illuminators and not get in front of the camera. I'm shooting no further than about 30-40 feet, and the cheap $10-15 turret illuminators on eBay do the job just fine. They are mounted up under the eve and although the illuminators are not waterproof, I wrapped the turret in a little bit of white duct tape and they have been running just fine outdoors. I just wouldn't go mounting them exposed without some type of overhead protection such as the eve. If you were to mount it to let say a pole with no overhead protection, the weather would kill the illuminator the first time it rained. Well anyway, I could go on and on, but this is my little (long) review of the effio cams along with some other information about my setup. Hopefully it helps someone as I have done countless hours of reading on here which really helped me to learn the in & outs of how to go about setting up my system. So if someone takes the time to read this and it helps them out, then I feel good knowing that I gave back a little to the community that helped me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joseph.chen0312 0 Posted December 16, 2011 I picked up one of these cameras from ebay a month or so ago. It is an alright camera. I have it in the default setting. When in 2.8 (wide) mode, at night when the IR's kick on, they create port hole effect, meaning there is a white circle surrounding the outter most portion of the monitor, (not a huge issue) but in nighttime ir setting, I don't think you are getting a full 2.8 because of the white circle blocking out some of the picture on the monitor. You'd be getting more like 3-4mm of actual viewing on the monitor. secondly, the camera is not a true day & night. it is electronic day & night. True day & night uses a mechanical IR cut filter (a servo motor physically moves a filter infront of the camera, to block IR in the daytime, and at night when the camera switches to black & white, the servo retracts the filter). That is what happens with a REAL TRUE day & night camera. This camera, uses electronic day & night. Meaning, the camera tries to adjust color during the daytime to compensate for the IR washout, and at night it switches over to black & white. I was a bit upset when the camera arrived and found that it was not true mechanical ir cut filter, when in the specs it is advertised as true day & night. Not a huge issue when it comes to picture quality, but it just upset me that it was advertised as being true day & night and when I got it I found that it was electronic day & night. Also, the housing is huge, leading the buyer to believe that there is some serious "meat & potatos" or "guts" when it comes to the camera, but the huge housing is all for show. I unscrewed the front of the camera, and it is nothing but a tiny board camera mounted inside a huge housing. Say the body of the camera is about 8 inches long (not including the mounting bracket). The board camera inside with IR illuminators are only about 2 inches deep. There is 6 inches of empty space of the camera body housing. The housing is made big to just give you a feeling that you are getting more for your money. Now on the other hand, I bought one of the 700tvl effio-e turret cameras (they advertised it in the title on eBay as a dome camera, but there is a difference between a dome and a turret style camera, this is technically a turret camera, not a dome camera), the turret looks like an eyeball & socket, where I'm sure you already know what a dome camera looks like. The 700tv turret cam that I bought on ebay was a fixed 3.6mm and I'm more pleased with that camera, than I am with the 700tvl effio-e 2.8-12mm bullet camera. Simply due to the fact that I didn't have to set the focal length or focus (the 3.6mm is set to a fixed 3.6mm and comes prefocused), plus the turret design is so simple to mount and aim. Plus it is a fraction of the size of the 2.8-12mm bullet that you are looking at, because as I mentioned above, the bullet camera is oversized just to give you a false feeling of you are getting more for your money, but I like the simplicity & compact design of the 700tvl effio-e turret camera, plus the fixed 3.6mm is a good general purpose wide field of view lens, and with it being prefocused, it is a easy installation. So right now I'm using a 4 channel DVR running 7.5fps full d1 every channel. I'm using a Cyberdome PTZ (just for fun) The other 3 cameras are 1. CNB 3.6mm bullet cam (this cam is the generation before the mona lisa chipset came out), I got it new in the unopened box off eBay for like $15, it is 600tvl, it is nothing too fancy but it is a good little camera for the price that I paid. 2. the 700tvl effio-e bullet (the same one you are inquiring about) 3. the 700tvl effio-e turret - 3.6mm fixed lens, I really like this camera Right now I'm saving up for a Qvis Apollo HD 16 channel DVR to upgrade from my 4 channel dvr. Once I buy the Qvis DVR, for the other 12 channels, I'm going to experiment with one of the VCM-24VF CNB dome cameras that everyone talks alot about on here. I'd also like to try out one of the Samsung Dome or Bullet cameras, the bullet cams would be the SCO-2080, they also make a SCO-2080R which the R symbolizes that the camera has onboard IR illuminators, but I don't really care for onboard IR, due to bugs constantly flying around the camera because of the IR. I have played around with using seperate IR illuminators (cheap ones bought on eBay for about $10-15), they are a turret design, with about 48 ir leds. I prefer to position them several feet away from the camera pointing in the same direction as the camera. In the warmer months when the bugs are out in full strength, having the illuminators away from the cameras really cuts down on bugs flying in front of the camera at night. Cause the bugs are attracted to the ir illuminators, and since those are positioned several feet to the side of the camera, the bugs tend to cling around the ir illuminators and not get in front of the camera. I'm shooting no further than about 30-40 feet, and the cheap $10-15 turret illuminators on eBay do the job just fine. They are mounted up under the eve and although the illuminators are not waterproof, I wrapped the turret in a little bit of white duct tape and they have been running just fine outdoors. I just wouldn't go mounting them exposed without some type of overhead protection such as the eve. If you were to mount it to let say a pole with no overhead protection, the weather would kill the illuminator the first time it rained. Well anyway, I could go on and on, but this is my little (long) review of the effio cams along with some other information about my setup. Hopefully it helps someone as I have done countless hours of reading on here which really helped me to learn the in & outs of how to go about setting up my system. So if someone takes the time to read this and it helps them out, then I feel good knowing that I gave back a little to the community that helped me. Hi sir, you are a pro, as for you concern that is in parameter not good to programming. Sometimes youi know not onle assemble those key components to an tangible one item. It needs spent a long lengh time to adjust to verify which is best of breed in those default su as color temprature, white balance... And your another good shoot is real day & night certainly need ICR to filter all light. If you aaplicable in some project this will characterized the advange in the complicated enviroment. You are reallya veteran. " title="Applause" /> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites