vince32837 0 Posted January 7, 2012 Gentlemen- Please review the pictures of my house exterior. Looking for good camera coverage, if you approach my house you will be on video. Don’t want to go crazy with camera count! Please pick the points where you would put cameras and specify dome or standard camera and direction you would point it if applicable. Should it be a PTZ? I am going with IP PoE outdoor cameras unless I can get away with indoor camera with Silicone sealant at any location? Indoor camera outdoors I heard you are asking for trouble? Ceilings throughout the house range from 10-14 feet which makes my wiring tough is some areas. I think PoE cameras is my best bet, just get a Cat5 wire there. Background info: 1.I went ahead and labeled numerous points so you can clearly pick a point for camera placement. 2.The only place I could have exposed Ethernet wire internally is the attic of course and the block- wall of the garage. Pics 1 & 3: Between points 1 and 2 is the living room, cameras at these 2 positions would have to be mounted through soffit. (probably not desirable) Positions 3,4,5 can come through attic and Position 9, would have drill through cinder-block of the garage. Pic 2: Positions 6 & 7 look attractive from a camera standpoint, but they are a nightmare to get to from inside the attic. The front porch archway is barricaded off in the attic. You can see only through 1 ft opening into the open cavity..Maybe use a pole to grab cat5 and pull into main attic? Pic 4: Positions 10,1,2 looks nice but again pretty room behind it. That’s the yellow ceiling line. Would have to mount camera on soffit or use position 11. Again position 11 will be tough to get to need grab wire with a hook or pole inside attic. Pic 5: position 12,13,14 same deal can crawl to those locations ( position 12 same as position 6 in pic 2) Pic 6: position 9 (attic wire) position 15 (block wall wire) 16 and 17: rooms with ceilings right to the soffit flashing. Pic 7: 15-17 all through soffit mount; 18 not an option (trim only 2-3 “ wide off house) positions 19 and 20 attic wired. 21 (14 ft celings) inside not an option. Pic 8 & 9: looking at interior pool deck. Yellow ceiling line indicated. Positions 22-24 all attic wired good options; 21 is out! That is a bathroom door below 24. Pic 10: The kitchen glass(above the orange pic 10 box) and the bedroom glass (below 30-31) is commercial ½” thick glass( house was the model came that way) weakest points of entry are the door below 28 and door below 23, giant slide doors all have standard glass. Pic 11: 32 and 33 good attic wiring points, but 34 would need soffit wiring. Pic 12 deleted. Pic 13: Rear-view of house pool screen entry from 2 doors, below 32 and opposite side (pic 7 below 19) Pic 14: front corner of house ( different angle) 10 & 1 would be soffit mount wiring???? From 10 looking down the wall you see large shrub. Pic 15: rear of house looking towards front of house at the same shrub (pic 14) 33 could be attic wired. 34 soffit wired. Thanks Vince Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vince32837 0 Posted January 7, 2012 max of 3 pics per post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vince32837 0 Posted January 7, 2012 final pics thanks Vince Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vince32837 0 Posted January 7, 2012 lots of lookers???? no suggestions "put a dome at 7" etc.......... somebody take a shot?????? thx Vince Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nDAlk90 0 Posted January 7, 2012 Too many questions. Too many photos. That's why the responses are slow. But let me give you some suggestions. You can install cameras anywhere you want. However cameras located too high will get you a view of someones hat. Cameras should generally be near face level if you want a view of someones face. Its not that complicated.... and if you find it is, do yourself a favor and hire a pro.... lots of lookers???? no suggestions "put a dome at 7" etc.......... somebody take a shot?????? thx Vince Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssmith10pn 0 Posted January 7, 2012 Consider this, You want us to suggest where to put cameras from your photos correct? If you had never stepped on that property and only had those photos to go by could you? The photos only paint a small piece of the picture. First off the photos are shot from where the camera will be looking instead of what the camera will be looking at. I have no idea where a camera needs to be placed unless I'm standing where the camera will be looking at what the camera would see. Make any sense? Also, I have no idea of your skillset of fishing wire nor have I been in your attic to know what is accessible and what is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vince32837 0 Posted January 7, 2012 Yeah 14 pics is overwhelming..Its hard to visualize without being there, you are right. What about general guidance for a newbie? When to use an outdoor dome mounted on a wall vs. standard bullet camera? thanks Vince Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssmith10pn 0 Posted January 7, 2012 I don't do much residential but ascetically I would want domes under the eves (Soffet). It's hard to tell in the pictures if your soffet is level with the ground or is it the same as the roof pitch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vince32837 0 Posted January 7, 2012 All soffet is level with the ground no angle, pretty stiff aluminum sheets installed. So dome vs bullet style is the same security vision-wise? domes smaller footprint more attractive only benefit? V Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted January 7, 2012 So dome vs bullet style is the same security vision-wise? domes smaller footprint more attractive only benefit? Look at the design of a typical bullet cam... then picture what happens to your view if someone nails it with a long stick or a big rock: the camera may withstand the blow, but ten-to-one it won't be looking at the same thing anymore. That aside, the others are right - it's great to have lots of pictures, but none of them give any idea of what the cameras will be looking at. At the very least, a Google Earth overview showing the layout of the house and property would help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted January 7, 2012 Nice pics and markings " title="Applause" /> I will pay you to walk the projects with me and do that so I don't have to any more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike_va 0 Posted January 8, 2012 I have to agree this number of pics was a little overwhelming. Make sure you have tight shots at choke points if you are using analog cams (where someone always walks through). Something to get the license plates. That was my push to megapixel. Just saw footage yesterday of local package theft of porch and could not make out the plate... Don't skimp on the lighting with analog or MP. Make sure you can still see if the driveway is full. Mine was a lot of trial and error, and I still move them around. Vitamin D was essential in this learning curve for me as it made reviewing clips so easy. There are some other examples on the net (usually subscription) that have useful techniques. Study your local markets and gas stations and banks - some are good and some bad. I ended up with a mixture of analog and IP for the time being, analog for overview and MP (Axis P1344 and P1346 P3346) for the tight shots. The 3MP is about the most I've found to be useful, with light conditions that change over the day, practical lenses etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vince32837 0 Posted January 8, 2012 Nice pics and markings " title="Applause" /> I will pay you to walk the projects with me and do that so I don't have to any more If it pays $40/hr you got a deal! Mike_VA: thanks for the advice. Vince Share this post Link to post Share on other sites