volanti 0 Posted January 13, 2012 Hello all. First off, thank you so much for your participation in this board. I have been reading for a while now, and your input and assistance with others has gotten me this far. I have been performing network and A/V installs for over 15 years, but this will be my first CCTV system. Your assistance is greatly appreciated. I am currently in the design phase of replacing an installed system at a Hotel. The system installed was just nasty, and the installation itself is even worse. I will start a thread on how NOT to install a system later. I am gutting and replacing everything. Here is what I have so far. I have a budget of about 10K US. I am putting in a total of 12 cameras, 6 indoor domes covering common areas, 4 IR bullets covering a back door, a loading dock, and 2 mounted under a vestibule covering the front door, and one PTZ covering the lobby. 7.5 to 15 FPS will be fine, 30 days of storage, and I can lay the data back to a Network Storage Device. All cameras will run through GEM baluns over new CAT5E, each camera with a home run to the DVR/Power panel. DVR: Samsung SRD 1650-DC - I did the math, a 3Tb system should be good. Indoor Dome Cameras: CNB DBM-24VD, MonaLisa chipsets Indoor speed PTZ: CNB DBM-24D Indoor bullets: CNB WCM-20VF Outdoor PTZ: CNB SDN-22Z27F (This is going to be living on top of a 12 story building on the lake in Chicago, so it has to be tough and quite weather resistant) Power: Samsung 24AC-18-8UL Baluns: Gem Your comments are welcome. A few questions. The CNB cameras, although rated very high, are kind of big. How do you guys feel about the Samsung cameras? They seem to have similar qualities, but are smaller and bit more "sleek" fitting the design of the hotel a bit better. Is there another brand I should look at? Opinions on the Samsung DVR? Local monitoring is not as important as monitoring over a web interface and smartphones. (iPod and Androids) What supplier do you guys recommend? I am not familiar with the ones from the board here, and I would rather spend money with someone you know vs. Amazon or some giant warehouse monger. I like to keep things local. Once again, thank you in advance all. Dan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted January 13, 2012 Hmmm, a couple of thoughts, off the top of my head (since I'm short on time)... Will there be someone operating/monitoring this system regularly? If not, you may want to reconsider a PTZ in the lobby, and perhaps on the roof as well: a PTZ can only record what it's looking at, and even if it's running on a regular tour, you're still going to be missing areas. For the price of a decent PTZ, you can get into megapixel cameras that will record the entire area in far higher detail, allowing you to zoom in on any section after the fact. Also, depending on the type of people you get around there, you might want to consider the VBM models for at least some of the indoor cameras: the DBM is a plastic dome that can easily be opened up with someone's key, a nail file, etc.; the VBM is a cast aluminum vandal-resistant design using "tamperproof" screws. If the camera will be reachable without a tall ladder, might be better to err on the side of prevention... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
volanti 0 Posted January 16, 2012 Thanks for your input Soundy, very much appreciated. Vandal Resistant - Where the cameras are located should be relatively safe from vandals save for 2. I will update those, thank you. PTZ - There will not be a "Full Time" hotel security staff at present, and the PTZ will be either fixed or on a very limited patrol. The intent was to give staff the ability to PTZ from either a computer or smart phone as needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted January 16, 2012 PTZ - There will not be a "Full Time" hotel security staff at present, and the PTZ will be either fixed or on a very limited patrol. The intent was to give staff the ability to PTZ from either a computer or smart phone as needed. Reasonable plan... just make sure the customer understands that there will be an inherent delay (especially via smartphone) between control movements, camera movements, and the video feed, so it may take them some practice to get used to moving the camera around remotely. Probably be a good idea with this to create a bunch of presets they can call up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
volanti 0 Posted January 16, 2012 outstanding idea on presets. I have a PTZ controller that was here and a monitor I was going to install in the server room where the DVR (and all other IT equipment) is if someone really needed to drill down and see what was going on. What dealer do you normally buy from? I see CNB has a list of "no-go" folks, but no list of auth resellers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
