crow 0 Posted January 26, 2012 my friend is running a G3 Lite Keyboard controller for 2 PTZ Cameras the dvr has no RS485 connected just the RS485 onto G3 Lite Keyboard for PTZ Cameras am i right in thinking that i only need to set the protocol board rate and camera address on the G3 Lite Keyboard for PTZ Cameras and not in the dvr thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cctvmann 0 Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) my friend is running a G3 Lite Keyboard controller for 2 PTZ Camerasthe dvr has no RS485 connected just the RS485 onto G3 Lite Keyboard for PTZ Cameras am i right in thinking that i only need to set the protocol board rate and camera address on the G3 Lite Keyboard for PTZ Cameras and not in the dvr thanks thats correct if there is no control through the dvr at all then only the keyboard will need setting up, if you require to control the cctv thru the dvr for example over the internet then you would need to setup the dvr t rs485 plus have a cable from the dvr to the keyboard/ptz's Edited January 28, 2012 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crow 0 Posted January 26, 2012 Thankyou very much for you reply would you know what would be the cause of one of the 2 ptz cameras to not move with the joypad keyboard and have the settings (protocol board rate address)on that camera screen (it works just wont move and has info on the screen) camera 1 was set and stored in keyboard controller as 001 address board rate 4800 and protocol pelco D and camera 2 was 002 address 4800 and pelco D but camera 002 wont move when selected in the joypad cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cctvmann 0 Posted January 26, 2012 Thankyou very much for you reply would you know what would be the cause of one of the 2 ptz cameras to not move with the joypad keyboard and have the settings (protocol board rate address)on that camera screen (it works just wont move and has info on the screen) camera 1 was set and stored in keyboard controller as 001 address board rate 4800 and protocol pelco D and camera 2 was 002 address 4800 and pelco D but camera 002 wont move when selected in the joypad cheers did you change the cctv camera to cam 2 on the pcb in the camera address, as if that is setup as any other cam address it wont work. also check to make sure your plus and minus (+ and -) on the rs485 data connection is the correct way round for camera 2 because if not this will cause camera 2 not to move. what camera is it that your using? oh and one last thing did you rebbot the camera for the address settings to take effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crow 0 Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) hi cctvmann there are 2 ptz cameras not sure what make 1 works perfect so the RS485 + and - must be ok no i didnt reboot the cameras after programing the keyboard and yes i changed the keyboard to 002 camera 2 then back to camera 1 which works ok does camera 2 need to be into the dvr in no 2 im back there sat so i wil reboot before i try anything els do i just switch the 12v power to the cameras off and then on again? and does the + and - have power going through it? also 1 last question if you dont mind im very interested in getting to know how to do new stuf but im a very slow leaner at some things can you tell me if im right on how it all conects together as i might get a camera setup for my self first if i get just a dvr and 2 ptz cameras the 2 cameras have 12v power to them then coax cable and 2 wires to them in a daisy chain for the rS485 to the dvr and on the back of the dvr the coax cables, 2 RS485 wires and power for the dvr then in goes the monitor or tv and the cameras have dip switches which can be changed to change the address and protocol and board rate which then must be matched in the dvr settings for ptz camera 1 and 2 and then if using a keyboard the RS485 can just go into that and then input the camera settings into that cheers Edited January 26, 2012 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cctvmann 0 Posted January 26, 2012 hi cctvmannthere are 2 ptz cameras not sure what make 1 works perfect so the RS485 + and - must be ok no i didnt reboot the cameras after programing the keyboard and yes i changed the keyboard to 002 camera 2 then back to camera 1 which works ok im back there sat so i wil reboot before i try anything els do i just switch the 12v power to the cameras off and then on again? and does the + and - have power going through it? also 1 last question if you dont mind im very interested in getting to know how to do new stuf but im a very slow leaner at some things can you tell me if im right on how it all conects together as i might get a camera setup for my self first if i get just a dvr and 2 ptz cameras the 2 cameras have 12v power to them then coax cable and 2 wires to them in a daisy chain for the rS485 to the dvr and on the back of the dvr the coax cables, 2 RS485 wires and power for the dvr then in goes the monitor or tv and the cameras have dip switches which can be changed to change the address and protocol and board rate which then must be matched in the dvr settings for ptz camera 1 and 2 and then if using a keyboard the RS485 can just go into that and then input the camera settings into that cheers the rs485 must be the correct way between cam 1 and cam 2 if its the wrong way wired it will cause loss of movement, also on the camera itself at camera 2 the cam address will need setting at 2 and that wll also need rebooting. the 485 does have power goind thru it a few millamps if memory serves correctly wrong polarity + snd - cnnections will just make it not work no damage will be caused. to reboot the camera just turn the power off to that camera wait 30 seconds then switch back on. where abouts is it you are setting the domes up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crow 0 Posted January 27, 2012 hi this setup is my friends and are already fitted they are on his building he paid £3000 for it all inc instalation the wiring between cam 1 and 2 must be correct as it has been working fine up untill a few months ago when they had a power cut and both of the ptz cameras stoped working and someone pulled the RS485 wires out off the joypad keyboard so i am trying to get them working again i got 1 camera working just not the other one i figured out the RS485 wires in the joypad and put the correct address e.c.t into the joypad but never rebooted the cameras will let you know how i get on on saturday thanks for your help cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cctvmann 0 Posted January 27, 2012 crow when the camera 2 boots up it will tell you the camera address on the screen check what that says and post a picture if you can. and i meant location of job Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crow 0 Posted January 27, 2012 hi mate i cant get there untill saturday but camera 2 screen shows all the info camera address 2 or 02 or 002 cant remember exactly board rate 4800 and protocol e.c.t this is what i input into the keyboard but didnt reboot the camera ill post back tomorrow thanks again cctvmann Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crow 0 Posted January 28, 2012 all working fine now went this morning and rebooted the camer 002 and it worked first time thanks for your help cctvmann cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cctvmann 0 Posted January 28, 2012 all working fine nowwent this morning and rebooted the camer 002 and it worked first time thanks for your help cctvmann cheers no problem, glad to hear its sorted now, all the best colin aka cctvmann Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crow 0 Posted January 29, 2012 hi again my friend who has the camera set up asked me today if i could set his system up to his network where the cameras are and view the cameras from home (not controll them just view) i have watched a couple of youtube vids on how to do this but would like to know ho his setup will have to be if he only has the Rs485 into the keyboard controller and not in the dvr would he still be able to view his cameras from home and not control them and is it just a matter of inserting the ethernet cable into the dvr then following the youtube video setups cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted January 29, 2012 if he only has the Rs485 into the keyboard controller and not in the dvr and is it just a matter of inserting the ethernet cable into the dvr you might be better listing your dvr make and model also your router type and if in uk your ISP. watching youtube videos will give you a idea but if its not your system it can give you problems. we need to know your dvr asd some use a port number other than 80. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cctvmann 0 Posted January 29, 2012 hi againmy friend who has the camera set up asked me today if i could set his system up to his network where the cameras are and view the cameras from home (not controll them just view) i have watched a couple of youtube vids on how to do this but would like to know ho his setup will have to be if he only has the Rs485 into the keyboard controller and not in the dvr would he still be able to view his cameras from home and not control them and is it just a matter of inserting the ethernet cable into the dvr then following the youtube video setups cheers like tom says, need the info on the dvr and what router type he has got. before we can say how to network as different dvrs have setting done slightly differently. if you want to pm the details if you feel putting on the forum might give to much security info then feel free to pm the details. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crow 0 Posted January 29, 2012 hi his dvr is an apollo lite 8 im not sure what router or isp are untill i get there mon or tuesday here is the link for th dvr http://www.adata.co.uk/support/documents/HOWTONETWORKANAPOLLO.pdf http://static.freewebstore.org/templates//55511/myimages/DVRNetworking.pdf http://www.adata.co.uk/support/documents/ApolloandZeusDVRNetworkSetupGuideXPONLY.pdf the first and third one looks ok to follow but not sure about the second one cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites