Electryko 0 Posted March 2, 2012 Hey, I like to spoof or clone a mac address of a IP camera. I'm working with some brands of NVR where each camera has a license file related to the mac address. When a camera fails I have to replace it in a short time, so I have buy a new camera and after this I have to ask for a new license file or I have to buy a new license file. A lot of times it can't be done the same day. I like to know if there's a cheap network bridge or router that I can put between the new camera and the NVR and with this bridge clone the mac address of the old camera. And this for the time it takes to get the new license file. A POE powered device would be perfect. A software script inside the various brands of camera's would be even better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted March 2, 2012 An NVR without such a stupid restriction would be the best solution: avoid the problem altogether, rather than trying to work around it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEANHAWG 1 Posted March 2, 2012 If I am not mistaken, that is how Milestone works. Atleast that is what I have heard. Could be totally wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted March 2, 2012 I like to know if there's a cheap network bridge or router that I can put between the new camera and the NVR and with this bridge clone the mac address of the old camera. this still would not help you at all (have a think ) if you have to use NVRs that work this way. then its much better for you and your customer if you had a spare camera and licence in stock you camera distributor should help you with at least 1 free temp licence just for these problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted March 2, 2012 I'm told Milestone DOES have a temp-license feature for just this purpose. Still a stupid way to do things and is better simply being avoided. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEANHAWG 1 Posted March 2, 2012 Yeah, I agree. I cant see, even from the NVR creators point of view, why this is needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soundy 1 Posted March 3, 2012 I haven't heard that they DO charge to re-license to a different camera... but it certainly gives them that ability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Razesdark 0 Posted March 16, 2012 If I am not mistaken, that is how Milestone works. Atleast that is what I have heard. Could be totally wrong. Correct. You can replace the MAC address appointed to the license. I got a version running here with 4 camera licences. And it says: "Deletions left: 2" Not sure how the number of deletions is related to the # of camera's. Perhaps per 2 camera's, 1 deletion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hardwired 0 Posted March 16, 2012 If I am not mistaken, that is how Milestone works. Atleast that is what I have heard. Could be totally wrong. Correct. You can replace the MAC address appointed to the license. I got a version running here with 4 camera licences. And it says: "Deletions left: 2" Not sure how the number of deletions is related to the # of camera's. Perhaps per 2 camera's, 1 deletion. I was told by their tech support that they allow approximately 15% of licenses on a particular installation to be changed online per year. After that, they can still be changed, but it requires an E-mail or phone call to tech support to do this. They don't charge to change the licensing information, but this is their way of controlling licensing (they license by camera MAC, rather than by server). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinbad 0 Posted March 19, 2012 OnSSI also have MAC address licensing. I always explain the client the need to have a spare cam on standby for those cases. and we purchase extra ptz and license per project. If budget is tight and they prefer to wait the 8 hrs it takes onssi to send me the new DLC so be it, but 99% where we installed Onssi were client of mission critical who understood and can't afford downtime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted March 19, 2012 And don't forget Milestone is now charging $110 per phone call for support Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hardwired 0 Posted March 19, 2012 And don't forget Milestone is now charging $110 per phone call for support That's for after hours or high priority response, basic phone support is still free (for now, anyway). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted March 20, 2012 And don't forget Milestone is now charging $110 per phone call for support That's for after hours or high priority response, basic phone support is still free (for now, anyway). Interesting from what I was told integrators will have to buy tickets for tech support. Tickets cost $110 each and no end users will be able to get phone tech support. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hardwired 0 Posted March 20, 2012 From an E-Mail I got from Milestone today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted March 20, 2012 I understand what they are trying to do but either way I think it was a bad move for them.... They should have just increased the license fees $15 or $20. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinbad 0 Posted March 20, 2012 I understand what they are trying to do but either way I think it was a bad move for them.... They should have just increased the license fees $15 or $20. I disagree with you on that one. When they deal with clients (sometimes installers too) who don't know what MAC address means, or if the camera is POE they can't waste staff time answering basic questions. I rather them put that extra salery towards another R&D guy salery to make things better. I think thats why some companies make you take the course before they even agree to talk to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak357 0 Posted March 20, 2012 I disagree with you on that one. When they deal with clients (sometimes installers too) who don't know what MAC address means, or if the camera is POE they can't waste staff time answering basic questions. I rather them put that extra salery towards another R&D guy salery to make things better. I think thats why some companies make you take the course before they even agree to talk to you. May be they should screen better their "future ,potential dealers/integrators" before they certify them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted March 20, 2012 If your a plummer you can sell Milestone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites