Members views on Nightowel and Q-see

[kg14 0]

Hi

 

I'm looking for a security system for our clothing/sporting goods store.I'm really not sure on what to buy other then the higher the vtl the better picture quality.

 

I would like to buy instore rather then online or buy online and pick up everything at the store.

 

These have been a few units I've looked at,I will possibly upgrade to 600vtl Dome style camera's,for the more crucial area's instore.

 

I haven't found much info on Night-Owl?

http://wwand w.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1481847&CatId=6035

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1158252&CatId=6035

 

Q-see

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7132707&CatId=6035

 

There's also this place and have thought about picking my own camera's then my 500hb dvr

http://www.aartech.ca/dome-security-cameras

http://www.aartech.ca/dvr/

 

But they also have this nice dvr package

http://www.aartech.ca/cv502-4ch-001-svat-4-channel-internet-security-camera-system.html

 

Just looking for help on what cameras (Dome-Bullet) (lines 600 540)

 

Thank you

[shockwave199 0]

I think there's lots written here- do a search for each product and see what comes up. I've written a lot myself about my q-see thoughts and user experiences. Good luck.

[tomcctv 190]

Just looking for help on what cameras (Dome-Bullet) (lines 600 540)

 

 

hi. before you buy any cameras look at the quality of the dvr. in your post you have 1 listed that says D1 good quality............ its not till you get to the spec that its D1 viewing live only recording is only done at CIF. which is no good for your setup (store use)

 

Maximum Recording Resolution...................................................CIF (352 x 288) Recording Speed (Frame)

30 FPS per Camera (NTSC) / 25 FPS (PAL)

 

 

I'm looking for a security system for our clothing/sporting goods store.

 

 

please spend more on cameras than the budget q-see or owl. your looking at something to give your good images in a retail store.

[kg14 0]

Just looking for help on what cameras (Dome-Bullet) (lines 600 540)

 

 

hi. before you buy any cameras look at the quality of the dvr. in your post you have 1 listed that says D1 good quality............ its not till you get to the spec that its D1 viewing live only recording is only done at CIF. which is no good for your setup (store use)

 

Maximum Recording Resolution...................................................CIF (352 x 288) Recording Speed (Frame)

30 FPS per Camera (NTSC) / 25 FPS (PAL)

 

 

I'm looking for a security system for our clothing/sporting goods store.

 

 

please spend more on cameras than the budget q-see or owl. your looking at something to give your good images in a retail store.

 

Hi

 

So what kind of DVR should I really look for,I don't have a clue on what D1 means or CIF. Also how high of a number on a 4 channel dvr should I look for.

 

If you were saying 352 x 288) is Garbage

 

I was told by the police I need a system that has the date/time etc on all the images.

 

I know your a very busy person but from what those two stores list what setup or pieces should I buy.

 

thanks

[groovyman 0]

Everyone I know who's purchased one of those NightOwl or QSee bundled system has been very disappointed with the cameras. Color reproduction has been terrible, if you have bright light coming into the store thats pretty much all you'll see (washes everything out) and the "Night Vision" is a joke. Even under good lighting conditions they've never been able to get decent images with them. An incident happens in your store. On video it appears the suspect is wearing a light purple shirt, in reality it's black. Description is wrong, suspect gets away.

 

I've purchased some stand alone QSee DVRs in the past and have been happy with the D1 record quality when used with decent cameras. My suggestion - if you want the QSee of Night Owl DVR, fine, but don't buy those cameras as you'll be wasting time, effort and money. Don't wait to "possibly upgrade to 600vtl Dome style camera's for the more crucial area's instore." Get better cameras for every area of the store from the start

[Soundy 1]

I'm really not sure on what to buy other then the higher the vtl the better picture quality.

This is not necessarily correct. For one, there's a lot more to what makes good output from a camera than just the resolution. Two, because so many people just think "more TVL = better picture", manufacturers - especially the low-end ones like these - tend to "fudge" the numbers, often exaggerating them... or they sacrifice other aspects of quality just to achieve higher TVL... because that's what people think they need to look for.

 

As Tom notes, the specs on those DVRs are dreadful. CIF denotes a recording resolution of 352x240 pixels - what's the point of a 600TVL (vertical resolution) camera if you just going to digitize it at 240 pixels? You want to look for a DVR that *records* at 4CIF (704x480) or D1 (720x480) resolution, ideally on all channels - that's the highest you can get out of analog video.

 

Don't wait to "possibly upgrade to 600vtl Dome style camera's for the more crucial area's instore." Get better cameras for every area of the store from the start

Agreed. This is a good camera to start with: http://www.cnbusa.com/en/html/product/product.php?seqx_prod=1073. They can be found starting around $160 each; they're vandal-resistant, dual-power, have great nighttime/low-light image, a very versatile zoom range, and they look good too

 

For a DVR, look up Dahua.

 

Remember, this is a retail store; this is your livelihood. You're not just putting out cameras to catch kids leaving bags of dog crap on the porch of your house, you're trying to spot and hopefully intercept/stop theft that's affecting your bottom line. Don't cheap out on equipment that isn't going to give you the results you need.