Jasper 0 Posted October 17, 2005 http://www.spytown.com/savc1hirecoc.html Your welcome SpyTown! I don't know how small this camera is, anybody know the physical dimensions? Looks like a good little camera I could use over the top of a cash register. Is this last years model? I couldn't find this camera listed on Sanyos web site, just a newer model? Any feeback would be apprecaited, as always! What's the deal with only using a manual IRIS? You adjust for your light and leave it that way? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted October 17, 2005 Its a mini camera, dont expect much from it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spytown 0 Posted October 17, 2005 It is last years version, but still currently available. It does only take manual iris, or manual varifocal lenses though. This version was specially made from Sanyo for the Casino industry to go over the poker tables, where they did not want the auto-iris to make the adjustments, they wanted to have full control and set it correctly, as their lighting condition was always the same. It is the same dimension as Sanyo's new VCC-5884. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper 0 Posted October 17, 2005 Did they use this camera in a dome? I have never seen these little camera's outside a dome in a casino, of course I don't see as good as I used too. What are the physical dimensions of this camera? I would like to put one of these above a cash register in a bar, but am concerned the picture might be grainy. Also without an IR/Cut filter I am wondering if the neon signs nearby would totally distort the color? I would like to use color if I can, but black and white seem to have less problems with this type of lighting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spytown 0 Posted October 18, 2005 Dimensions (W x H x D) 2.48(w) x 2.68(h) x 2.01(d) inches (63 x 68 x 51mm) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper 0 Posted October 20, 2005 Thanks for the dimensions. I ordered one so I can see what type of quality picture it can produce in my application, which is simply to watch a cash register that has a constant amount of light illuminating it. So the manual Iris should be ok C A S I N O Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cooperman 0 Posted October 20, 2005 If the camera is designed for manual iris lenses only, why does the picture show an auto iris lens .... With the electronic iris enabled, and a decent lens fitted, if you have sufficient lighting to enable the aperture to be stopped down one or two stops, you should get a very good picture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spytown 0 Posted October 20, 2005 only image that was available. You should get an excellent picture. Jasper call or email me. have to talk to you about the mount you ordered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted October 20, 2005 Its a cheap camera, you will get what you pay for it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spytown 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Rory, it is a no way a "cheap" camera. it happens to be that we are having a blowout special on them, and it is therefore now very inexpensive. But by now way a "cheap" camera. Look at its spec. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Its still a cheap camera, there is no way denying that, specs dont mean anything these days, you should know that by now. Its a mini camera, you dont get any cheaper than those, which is why you cant expect any kind of real decent image from them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spytown 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Rory. There has to be a reason why The Mirage, The Bellagio, and most other major casinos had always used that camera. I dont think they would want to use anything "cheap". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spytown 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Rory.. are you familiar with the Genwac / Watec (Japan) Line of Cameras? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper 0 Posted October 21, 2005 (edited) Why? Is that who makes them for Sanyo and Sanyo put's their name on them? After checking out their site I guess your saying small cameras can be high quality? Edited October 21, 2005 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Why Do you know SunkWang in Korea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spytown 0 Posted October 21, 2005 no. Sanyo is a true manufacture and makes their own camera. I was talking about Genwac/ Watec in regard to his line of "mini cameras". They happen to make mini cameras that far exceed standard box cameras as far as spec. Kind of on the pricey side though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper 0 Posted October 21, 2005 I will make it work, somewhere, if it won't work where I want to put it. I could use it in place of an old BW camera that is rated at 2 lux and works fine. But because of the inherent sensitivity of a BW over color I guess I’ll just have to test it and find out. If it works out, maybe I should try to find a dome it will fit into so I don't have to deal with the lens cleaning issue. It is a basically an inexpensive camera for me to experiment with anyhow. It is quite a bit cheaper than the never model, which has better specs but it also has the higher price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper 0 Posted October 22, 2005 I am surprised that the casinos are not using something better. I would think they would want the highest resolution cameras available on the market. It’s not like they can’t afford it, especially the Bellagio I would think they would be using a product like this company: http://www.covitechnologies.com/ or some other top of the line cameras. With storage prices dropping and greater storage capacities available that were not available a year ago, storage should not be a factor. The new perpendicular recording method being introduced into the newer hard drives should easily double today’s largest capacity drives. So storage shouldn’t be an issue. Even if it was, if there is one business that can afford the best money can buy, it is the casino industry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted October 22, 2005 jasper i got some sanyo day night dome shots now, check email, ill post them up once i get them together against the old cameras .. they seemed to work out good so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spytown 0 Posted October 24, 2005 Rory.. check out the specs and pricing on these new Nuvico Domes. you may want to try one out. http://www.spytown.com/nunvomse55li.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper 0 Posted November 10, 2005 Aren’t they putting that camera in a dome though? In the casino they keep their light constant and this camera works for them. Without an auto-iris it has more limited applications. I wish I had a gaming table to put that camera over, especially if it was mine. I really like Sanyo’s VDC-D1184VA dome camera. It is a lot more money, but it is a great camera. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spytown 0 Posted November 10, 2005 jasper, yes the casino's put that camera in an in ceiling dome of some kind. usually with a clear lower dome though, so there is no loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marrkk 0 Posted November 11, 2005 If the camera is designed for manual iris lenses only, why does the picture show an auto iris lens ... The picture is of a VCC-5774, which can take an auto iris lens. The camera being sold is a VCC-5774M, (M for manual) designed for controlled lighting conditions (Casinos!). Sanyo has one manual (and one picture) for both cameras. As to the reason it is inexpensive, remember it is designed to be used in a very well designed and CONTROLLED lighting and background environment. Much of the cost of cameras going in highly variable lighting (day/ night, glare from light thru glass doors, etc) goes into designing them to perform under those extremely varied conditions[/b] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spytown 0 Posted November 14, 2005 MARRKK, that is the only image that Sanyo has for the camera, the same image is used for the VCC-5774M, VCC-5774 and VCC-5884. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites