ctbaker 0 Posted August 24, 2013 Hi, I am finally ready to move forward with my system. At this point I'd like to buy a single Hikvision bullet for testing purposes and then go all in with the DS-7608NI-SE/8P NVR and additional bullets and a dome. My questions has to do with the bullets. I see you can get the DS-2CD2032-I w/ 4mm lens and swap it out for 6mm or 12mm lenses or there is a vari-focal camera available as DS-2CD2632F-I(S). I'd like to move the camera around from location to location to figure out what lens I need at each location. I don't see anyone selling the 6mm or 12mm lenses or the vari-focal camera. Are the lenses or vari-focal camera available in the USA anywhere? Thanks, Chad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zikronix 0 Posted August 24, 2013 Costco sells the swann version. Its locked at 2.1MP unless you flash it. but its the same camera Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ctbaker 0 Posted August 24, 2013 Since the cost of a 4 camera Swann 2MP system from Costco ($1200) is the same price as buying the same setup using Hikvision 3MP cameras and the Hikvision NVR from Nellys, will the vari-focal Swann 2MP (Hikvision sourced) camera from Costco work on a Hikvision branded system from Nellys fine? Can I flash the Hikvision firmware to the vari-focas Swann 2MP camera? http://www.costco.com/Swann-1080p-HD-IP-Vari-Focal-Bullet-Camera.product.100070294.html Thanks, Chad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rayt 0 Posted August 24, 2013 as mentioned costco sells the varifocal version labelled as swann, can take the same hikvision firmware, i run my varifocal versions at 3mp. don't try to change the lens on the bullet, they are glued in and very difficult to take off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rayt 0 Posted August 24, 2013 Since the cost of a 4 camera Swann 2MP system from Costco ($1200) is the same price as buying the same setup using Hikvision 3MP cameras and the Hikvision NVR from ., will the vari-focal Swann 2MP (Hikvision sourced) camera from Costco work on a Hikvision branded system from . fine? Can I flash the Hikvision firmware to the vari-focas Swann 2MP camera? http://www.costco.com/Swann-1080p-HD-IP-Vari-Focal-Bullet-Camera.product.100070294.html Thanks, Chad you can flash the costco setup to 3mp. the swann varifocal will work with the hikvision system with no problems. I run my swann varifocals with hikvision firmware. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cglaeser 0 Posted August 24, 2013 you can flash the costco setup to 3mp. the swann varifocal will work with the hikvision system with no problems. I run my swann varifocals with hikvision firmware. Are these Costco Swann sufficiently ONVIF compliant to record on motion detection with systems like Avigilon? Edit: ... using the Hikvision flash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rayt 0 Posted August 24, 2013 you can flash the costco setup to 3mp. the swann varifocal will work with the hikvision system with no problems. I run my swann varifocals with hikvision firmware. Are these Costco Swann sufficiently ONVIF compliant to record on motion detection with systems like Avigilon? Edit: ... using the Hikvision flash. via PSIA they will work, or so i've been told, ONVIF will NOT work with camera side motion detection Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak357 0 Posted August 24, 2013 via PSIA they will work, or so i've been told, ONVIF will NOT work with camera side motion detection Latest ONVIF will work with camera side motion detection Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cglaeser 0 Posted August 24, 2013 Latest ONVIF will work with camera side motion detection Do you mean latest ONVIF or latest Hikvision implementation of ONVIF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak357 0 Posted August 24, 2013 Latest ONVIF will work with camera side motion detection Do you mean latest ONVIF or latest Hikvision implementation of ONVIF? hmm good ? i would say both has to conform Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cglaeser 0 Posted August 24, 2013 hmm good ?i would say both has to conform Yes, both must conform. ONVIF includes provisions for camera motion detection and Hikvision supports at least a subset of ONVIF. Some day, many of these cameras will support ONVIF camera motion detection. My question is the following: Has anyone confirmed that Hikvision has implemented ONVIF camera motion detection in any of these cameras? Best, Christopher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak357 0 Posted August 24, 2013 hmm good ?i would say both has to conform Yes, both must conform. ONVIF includes provisions for camera motion detection and Hikvision supports at least a subset of ONVIF. Some day, many of these cameras will support ONVIF camera motion detection. My question is the following: Has anyone confirmed that Hikvision has implemented ONVIF camera motion detection in any of these cameras? Best, Christopher Call me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rayt 0 Posted August 25, 2013 hmm good ?i would say both has to conform Yes, both must conform. ONVIF includes provisions for camera motion detection and Hikvision supports at least a subset of ONVIF. Some day, many of these cameras will support ONVIF camera motion detection. My question is the following: Has anyone confirmed that Hikvision has implemented ONVIF camera motion detection in any of these cameras? Best, Christopher i don't believe they have, i do not think anyone has it working with onvif camera motion detection, my nvr (synology) is onvif profile s won't work with hikvision camera side motion detection which is also onvif profile s i believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElectricLegs 0 Posted August 25, 2013 Hi, I'd like to move the camera around from location to location to figure out what lens I need at each location. I don't see anyone selling the 6mm or 12mm lenses or the vari-focal camera. Are the lenses or vari-focal camera available in the USA anywhere? Use the "board lenses" here... http://www.m12lenses.com/M12-Mount-Mega-Pixel-Lenses-s/21.htm Spray a little carb cleaner on a cotton swab (shake of any access) and barely wet the glue locking the lens and then pull up with with dental pick or similar tool. It'll come off in a hard chunk easily. Do 1 strip of glue at a time. I've installed the 16mm into a Swann 820 bullet with good results. -EL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak357 0 Posted August 25, 2013 i don't believe they have, i do not think anyone has it working with onvif camera motion detection, my nvr (synology) is onvif profile s won't work with hikvision camera side motion detection which is also onvif profile s i believe. Do not agree for example in Avigilon I can pick ONVIF "driver" and connect to number of different cameras the only difference is some will give just video some will give you video and motion recording Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rayt 0 Posted August 25, 2013 i don't believe they have, i do not think anyone has it working with onvif camera motion detection, my nvr (synology) is onvif profile s won't work with hikvision camera side motion detection which is also onvif profile s i believe. Do not agree for example in Avigilon I can pick ONVIF "driver" and connect to number of different cameras the only difference is some will give just video some will give you video and motion recording since the specific question was does hikvision have camera side motion detection with avigilon? can you please tell us? i have no experience with avigilon, but i know hikvision does not have camera side motion detection with onvif s rated nvr. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak357 0 Posted August 25, 2013 since the specific question was does hikvision have camera side motion detection with avigilon? Yes ,it does Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted August 25, 2013 i don't believe they have, i do not think anyone has it working with onvif camera motion detection, my nvr (synology) is onvif profile s won't work with hikvision camera side motion detection which is also onvif profile s i believe. Do not agree for example in Avigilon I can pick ONVIF "driver" and connect to number of different cameras the only difference is some will give just video some will give you video and motion recording since the specific question was does hikvision have camera side motion detection with avigilon? can you please tell us? i have no experience with avigilon, but i know hikvision does not have camera side motion detection with onvif s rated nvr. Yes motion detection works with Avigilon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rayt 0 Posted August 25, 2013 Yes motion detection works with Avigilon. thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cglaeser 0 Posted August 25, 2013 Yes motion detection works with Avigilon. "Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know." - King Arthur tFylQ6_1bgQ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites