TMU 0 Posted November 6, 2013 We have built an outdoor, self sufficient Deer Camera system for online streaming and cannot get the final piece of the puzzle figured out. Here's what we have: EasyN F Series IP Camera Pepwave Surf Soho Router Internet source is Verizon 4G through a Mifi and/or USB Modem Static IP Address I've been all through the configurations and must be missing something. I can view live streaming only when connected directly from my laptop to the Pepwave Router. Once disconnected and I enter my static IP on my browser, it times out. Anyone have any ideas? Will trade venison for osme help! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak_camguy 0 Posted November 6, 2013 Sounds like you need to open some ports through the router externally so you can view the feed remotely. IE: Internal IP of cam equals 192.168.0.100 Then you need to port forward whatever port the cam is setup on (normally 80) on the router to 192.168.0.100 Look for something that says DMZ within the router, and put in the IP of the camera in the router and apply. See if you can then view the camera remotely. That will tell us if its a port forwarding issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TMU 0 Posted November 6, 2013 Will check that out now! Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TMU 0 Posted November 6, 2013 ak - I ventured into the router and Mifi settings. Each have a Port Forwarding section. Found nothing in the router for DMZ - Only in the MIFI port forwarding section, which says that Port Forwarding and DMZ cannot be used simultaneously, whatever that means. Here's a couple screenshots of the settings: ROuter: Mifi: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak_camguy 0 Posted November 6, 2013 Ah, the problem is your networking setup on the camera. It is on a 192.168.1.x address range and your router is setup as a 192.168.50.x range. Change either the router to 192.168.1.1 or the camera to 192.168.50.2 They have to both be on the same network.... IE: Router: 192.168.50.1 Camera: 192.168.50.2 Router: 192.168.2.1 Camera: 192.168.2.2 Hopefully that makes sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TMU 0 Posted November 6, 2013 Are you talking about changing the address that is under HTTP Server on the Mifi? That one is under port forwarding which is not activated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted November 6, 2013 I know what your problem is and it's not port forwarding, it's Verizon 4G. The only way I know to make it work is pay their ransom, I believe it's $450 to get a static IP address. Without that, the WAN IP they assign you through DHCP is internal to their network and not the internet, so no path from the internet back to your camera as their firewalls block it. Sucks, I know, been there, don't that, cried for while and then got over it. This is different than 3G where you could have done that, but then limited to 3G speed. This applies to A&T&. Sprint I believe can do it for a small monthly fee. There are clever ways of getting around it, but they are difficult to implement and may not do what you want and suck up a lot of bandwidth, but your account has unlimited data, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TMU 0 Posted November 6, 2013 The problem is not the Verizon ransom as we have purchased a static IP be address and 20gigs of data per month from Millenicom which is a Verizon reseller. The data is $69.95 per month and the static IP is an additional $10.00. The camera will send a 6-pic motion alert with no problems so we not it is not a service provider issue. I believe it is just a config matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak_camguy 0 Posted November 6, 2013 Basically you are double natting.... So thats why its not working. Your Wifi is setup to use 192.168.1.1 (This i assume provides your internet) Your router (Which allows multiple devices to be connected to it is using a 192.168.50.x range.) This needs to be changed to match the same network as your Mifi. Do this... Mifi -(DO NOT CHANGE) 192.168.1.1 Router (192.168.1.2) Camera (192.168.1.3) Enable DMZ for 192.168.1.3 (Disable Port Forwarding) Let me know if your camera now works using your Static IP that Verizon provided. It would be http://staticipfromverizon:8090 if 8090 is the port that your camera uses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TMU 0 Posted November 6, 2013 Do this... Mifi -(DO NOT CHANGE) 192.168.1.1 Router (192.168.1.2) Camera (192.168.1.3) Enable DMZ for 192.168.1.3 (Disable Port Forwarding) Let me know if your camera now works using your Static IP that Verizon provided. It would be http://staticipfromverizon:8090 if 8090 is the port that your camera uses. Ok, so change the actual IP address of the camera and the router to what you said above? Here are the screenshots from each of those currently. Just want to make sure I am changing things in the right spot. Router: Camera: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TMU 0 Posted November 6, 2013 Well this sucks. Now cannot even access the Pepwave router. Whenever hooked to it via ethernet cable now I can't get my laptop online with either my home wireless or the Mifi. Now I am really screwed because I cannot access the router! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted November 6, 2013 So you are not using Verizon, but a company that uses Verizon's network, but the key is they gave you a static IP which VZW charges $450 for but one time. I do agree that you can't use a router on a router, and the MiFi is one router, the router is the second. I've played around with this for a while and found no easy way, even if you setup one router as the DMZ, not saying it's not possible, but not easy. We do it differently and use a Verizon 4G USB stick in an Cradlepoint Mobile Broadband router specifically made for this purpose. I'm going to assume the EasyN camera is a WiFi camera, just have it connect directly to the MiFi via WiFi and setup port forwarding on the MiFi, forget the router. If the reason for the router is that the camera is attached via Ethernet, then put the router in bridge mode connected to the MiFi WiFi network and attached to your camera. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak_camguy 0 Posted November 6, 2013 To access the router you need to type in the new address.... Router: http://192.168.1.2 Also, try rebooting your PC, it may need to obtain a new DHCP address.... If it doesn't obtain an address do the following... START>Control Panel>Networking>Local Area Connection Right click Local Area Connection and go to Properties. Click on TCP/IP V4, then Properties Click the dial that says use the following IP address: IP Address: 192.168.1.100 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Gateway: 192.168.1.1 Use the Following DNS Servers: 192.168.1.1 Hit OK/OK and then try and go to the website above. On your camera, you will need to change the DNS Server to 192.168.1.1 as well as your gateway. They should look like the images below. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted November 7, 2013 It's probably not working because you have an IP conflict, not a good idea to give another router the first DHCP address. So to get out of this pickle, turn everything off, when I say everything, anything that can possibly auto connect to the router when you turn them on like a phone, tablet, printer, anything. Turn the MiFi on, turn the laptop on, connect the SSID of the MiFi and reset the gateway IP to what you had before. Do the same for the other router, go in via Ethernet if you can and put that back to the way you had it before. Then explain what exactly are you trying to accomplish by having two routers? Is it that; a) you are trying to extend the reach of WiFi? b) the camera is not WiFi and you are trying to connect the camera to the second router through Ethernet because the MiFi clearly does not have Ethernet ports c) the camera connects to a PC running streaming software to a web server and one is on MiFi the other on the router Then how do you plan on having people view the camera, embedded on a website or just direct connect to the camera's web interface? If embedded on a website, what streaming software are you using? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak_camguy 0 Posted November 7, 2013 I own one of these devices and the Mifi is basically an access point with one Ethernet port. The ideal solution is to plug that Ethernet port into a switch and allow all your wired devices to use that access through the switch. Then attach a wireless access bridge to the same switch to extend the network wirelessly. He isn't doing that by his setup. I have used the same method he is describing and it works, but it's not ideal. Basically he could have just changed his gateway and DNS addresses to 192.168.1.1 and it would have worked, but double nat usually always causes problems. Hence why I suggested he get everything on the same network segment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TMU 0 Posted November 14, 2013 Update, FINALLY got that bastard working on my static IP address. Ditched the MIFI unit and went with a pantech UML290 from verizon connected directly to the router. Works great, just seems after an hour or so it gets stuck or times out. Maybe that's just service going in and out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted November 14, 2013 We use a VZW USB stick in a Cradlepoint Mobile Broaband Router and it works great, been up for about 6 months, no problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RustyJL 0 Posted November 15, 2013 So when do we get to see your deer cam images and/or live feed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TMU 0 Posted November 15, 2013 Hit camp at 1am. Up at 5 and in stand now. Checking cams leter and setting it up this weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted November 15, 2013 How's the service with Millenicom? Are they throttling you for too much usage? Are you getting a good and stable 4G connection. I can't believe their price, $79 for unlimited 4G. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites