robzee67 0 Posted January 11, 2006 Stand alone brands and PC base...which one to stay away from? Whats everyones favorite? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kandcorp 0 Posted January 11, 2006 I can already see where this is going to end up... Why dont we just stick to what we do like. Too many people, too many opinions and experiences. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robzee67 0 Posted January 11, 2006 dammit!... ok..how about if you were to pick between SPECO, EVERFOCUS, SAMSUNG, VITEK?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rapid 0 Posted January 11, 2006 That question annoys me and other readers....what's the best....... What's the application? Give us something concrete info.....don't forget your readers are from around the globe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RVRBOY420007 0 Posted January 11, 2006 Seriously couldn't pick a favorite... have had good and bad experiences with at least 20 different makes and models. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted January 11, 2006 Straight off, when you say Samsung, depends if you mean Samsung GVI or Samsung Techwin, Techwin are much better than the Samsung GVI. Vitek never tried, Speco have, Everfocus used their DVR .. id say from Specs, Vitek has some really good gear, and Nuvico same as Vitek basically. These are all mid range products, OEM anyway - Except for Everfocus, which i can say with confidence i didnt like their DVR when it crashed all the time. Its all a personall Preference but i wouldnt buy DVRs myself from Samsung GVI, Neverfocus, Speco, HiSharp, among others ... theres a long list as there is a long list of what others have tested and worked well, even some of the products from the onesi just mentioned have ones that work well, they are OEM so you never know what you are going to get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RVRBOY420007 0 Posted January 12, 2006 if you look closely you will notice most of those names mentioned are the same dvr like speco everfocus, vitek and so-forth. I know rory doesn't like everfocus but they actually manufacture there dvr's and have several factories overseas and for the right price and volumn will make you a dvr of your very own. Not certain but I think some of viteks and speco's dvrs are made by everfocus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted January 12, 2006 no everfocus doesnt make the viteks, Speco buys various maufacturers but the ones i used werent everfocus. I used the Everfocus EDSR1600 and we used at least 3 of them, they all crashed on a daily basis, they were thrown out in the end, a waste of a few thousand dollars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark jones 0 Posted January 12, 2006 yes i agree rory i have used them before and they have crashed on me to!! so why waste money! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robzee67 0 Posted January 12, 2006 God bless..i better go run to my end users and rip them off their desks...ok, so i got that EVERFOCUS is not a top shelf in the low line but what about the cameras?..if they have the SONY chip, they should be all good...right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RVRBOY420007 0 Posted January 12, 2006 I just call them like I see them. I do agree the edsr series suck nuts but so does the pelco dx7000 but look at the dx8000 much better and everfocuses new edr1680 is nice haven't had any problems yet better knock on wood. But hell just three...I had 3 doa Vicon kollectors in a row thats over $30000. Now how many of you guys have actually taken apart these units?? I have ran accross several DVRs that have the exact same guts just diffenerent skins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted January 12, 2006 I take apart everything, since there is no warranty to the Bahamas, it doesnt matter anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RVRBOY420007 0 Posted January 12, 2006 Next thing I will hear is Rainbow doesn't get there IR's from Extreme. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted January 12, 2006 Cameras is a whole different ball game, just because it has a Sony Chip doesnt make it a decent camera ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RVRBOY420007 0 Posted January 12, 2006 I wasn't refering to cameras just illuminators. I love taking apart things too. Why is there no warranty in the bahamas?? Isn't a warranty a warranty no matter what?? I have a customer in Puerto Rico and I warranty all his stuff just like in the states. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted January 12, 2006 We playin catch up, i was talking about DVRs ... he he, and yes Rainbow uses Extreme's IRs, and So do i, and yes Ive taken them apart also many many times .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted January 12, 2006 Time as its sent back to the US, and a new unit sent back here, its triple the original price with Customs and Shipping, and 3 months down the road, so we dont bother with warranty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RVRBOY420007 0 Posted January 12, 2006 It gets tricky when you are talking on several subjects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robzee67 0 Posted January 12, 2006 I kinda like that in the Bahamas...wish it was like that here to...tell your customers ounce you baught it..its yours... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted January 12, 2006 nah, we still have to warranty it, needless to say im not supplying hardware anymore .. not worth it .. i let them get it from others that can carry stock or order through the US direct ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RVRBOY420007 0 Posted January 12, 2006 When I have a warranty issue I make the manufacture pay for red freight for the replacement and return freight for the defective unit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted January 12, 2006 (edited) You're in the US though ... i did send something back to a manufacturer once, a big name brand, i had to pay shipping both ways, plus full 45% custom duty on its return trip on the original total, it was an expensive stand alone unit ... never again ... it took 3 months to get back here also!! Edited January 12, 2006 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RVRBOY420007 0 Posted January 12, 2006 So are most manufactures, I have a customer in Puerto Rico I treat the same Hell my dads from mexico, mom from Ireland. I don't discriminate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted January 12, 2006 the distributors on here that i have ordered from, know what Im talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RVRBOY420007 0 Posted January 12, 2006 Is customs always that bad?? I have had one or two issues but thats it. The worsst one was some LCDS going into Canada $3200 customs fee Senstar **** bricks when they got that charge. I would have though going to the bahamas would be easier. The other insident was just recent comming from extreme a reg was held up for 5 days because the paper work was missing fed tax id. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
