sameerbatavia 0 Posted February 21, 2014 i am pretty new to cctv installations and need detail info on cctv video wall for ip cameras, like how is the setup done connectivity and details , like i want to learn all the basics of designing a wall and installing it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SunnyKim 2 Posted February 22, 2014 Can you tell How many IP Cameras? HD1080P? How many monitors do you need? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted February 22, 2014 What VMS are you using? Some have a video wall feature that make this very easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MR2 0 Posted February 22, 2014 Some have a video wall feature that make this very easy. and charge appropriately.. !!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) Some have a video wall feature that make this very easy. and charge appropriately.. !!!! Avigilon's is Free with Enterprise software:D Y4rnd6qwRXE Edited February 22, 2014 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted February 22, 2014 Free is good as Milestone charges for it as an add on product called Smart Wall only to their top tier product. What may be a better deal is Exacq which has this across their line including Exacq Start which runs about $50/camera which is cheap. Yes, I know cheap is relative, but for someone with so many cameras that they need to have a wall of displays, $50/camera is cheap for NVR software. But if you want free, I believe the ACTi TV Wall Server is free, of course if you only use ACTi cameras. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted February 22, 2014 What may be a better deal is Exacq which has this across their line including Exacq Start which runs about $50/camera which is cheap. Yes, I know cheap is relative, but for someone with so many cameras that they need to have a wall of displays, $50/camera is cheap for NVR software. Incorrect information "Video Wall is a standard, included feature with exacqVision Pro and Enterprise at no additional cost." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drocer 0 Posted February 22, 2014 Free is good as Milestone charges for it as an add on product called Smart Wall only to their top tier product. What may be a better deal is Exacq which has this across their line including Exacq Start which runs about $50/camera which is cheap. Yes, I know cheap is relative, but for someone with so many cameras that they need to have a wall of displays, $50/camera is cheap for NVR software. But if you want free, I believe the ACTi TV Wall Server is free, of course if you only use ACTi cameras. AFAIK, axxon is free (for 16 cameras) and not "free......when you purchase" like avigilon/etc. http://www.axxonsoft.com/products/axxon_next/interface/videowall.php Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted February 22, 2014 Also depends if wall is just for visual or include in the software alarm screen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted February 22, 2014 Sorry if my information is wrong, I got it from Exacq's website here - https://exacq.com/blog/tag/video-wall/ And it says Version 4.9 of the exacqVision Video Management Software is now available. This latest version updates exacqVision Start, Pro and Enterprise Key features include the following: ◾New Video Wall Features" So not sure what it means, is it a feature of Start but you pay separately but is included in Pro & Enterprise? Sort of confusing. What may be a better deal is Exacq which has this across their line including Exacq Start which runs about $50/camera which is cheap. Yes, I know cheap is relative, but for someone with so many cameras that they need to have a wall of displays, $50/camera is cheap for NVR software. Incorrect information "Video Wall is a standard, included feature with exacqVision Pro and Enterprise at no additional cost." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
varascope 0 Posted February 23, 2014 Can you provide the use case? We have done video walls for different customers but each has different requirements which significantly changes variables and pricing. As an example: 1 Machine with a 4ch video out card similar to a Windows multi-desktop environment. Software based fairly cheap and straight forward. Hardware based that uses a matrix driver that can take multiple monitors and make it appear as one. Items then can re-sized as one or multiple windows. There is also an advanced version that allows for multi-station keyboard controls. Then there is the all in one box like the NST-Vid-Wall 8000 Series. It is a 19" rack mount appliance that can handle over 500 inputs. You can mix and match analog, HD-SDI AND IP. You can also add keyboard controllers and a bunch of options I can't even remember. With this, your recording platform can be with whoever you want and mix it as well. The last 2 I would use for a monitoring center. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted February 23, 2014 Just checked your link. "New Video Wall Features New Version 4.9 Video Wall functionality enables switching of Views on the video wall. User-created views can be displayed via event monitoring-based triggers such as motion, alarms and serial data. Video Wall is a standard, included feature with exacqVision Pro and Enterprise at no additional cost." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted February 23, 2014 I get that, but does that mean if you get Start it's optional or not available because from the top it says the features are available in all versions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MR2 0 Posted February 23, 2014 as one of the other guys said, it depends on your implementation though... if you don't need much you could just get a PC with multi head (multi monitor) and just load up multiple smart clients for each screen.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted February 24, 2014 My thoughts on this are that you have to manually position the different displays with the different layout on each monitor. For example, say you have a 3x3 display, you put 9 camera on one monitor in layout 1 and 9 on layout 2. You would have to start the client twice and then move them to the correct display and select the layout you want. This would have to be done manually each time you reboot, no? Not saying it can't be done, but is it feasible. Maybe there's 3rd party multi-monitor software that can do this automatically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MR2 0 Posted February 24, 2014 My thoughts on this are that you have to manually position the different displays with the different layout on each monitor. For example, say you have a 3x3 display, you put 9 camera on one monitor in layout 1 and 9 on layout 2. You would have to start the client twice and then move them to the correct display and select the layout you want. This would have to be done manually each time you reboot, no? Not saying it can't be done, but is it feasible. Maybe there's 3rd party multi-monitor software that can do this automatically. more or less yes, from memory milestone is pretty good at remembering how you set it up... so in theory you could have each client use a different login, then it would remember which position and view it was on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak357 0 Posted February 24, 2014 My thoughts on this are that you have to manually position the different displays with the different layout on each monitor. For example, say you have a 3x3 display, you put 9 camera on one monitor in layout 1 and 9 on layout 2. You would have to start the client twice and then move them to the correct display and select the layout you want. This would have to be done manually each time you reboot, no? Not saying it can't be done, but is it feasible. Maybe there's 3rd party multi-monitor software that can do this automatically. more or less yes, from memory milestone is pretty good at remembering how you set it up... so in theory you could have each client use a different login, then it would remember which position and view it was on Or you use Avigilon One client and many different view setup as you wish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MR2 0 Posted February 24, 2014 Or you use Avigilon One client and many different view setup as you wish I don't believe that for a second Milestone allows lots of view however they have an actual video wall product that's quite expensive, I bet that no-one else does exactly what it does without charging appropriately of note, I have no idea exactly what it does.. sooooo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted February 24, 2014 Or you use Avigilon One client and many different view setup as you wish I don't believe that for a second Milestone allows lots of view however they have an actual video wall product that's quite expensive, I bet that no-one else does exactly what it does without charging appropriately of note, I have no idea exactly what it does.. sooooo Avigilon's VM is separate client software that you control using the ACC 5 Client. Basicly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak357 0 Posted February 24, 2014 I don't believe that for a second Milestone allows lots of view however they have an actual video wall product that's quite expensive, I bet that no-one else does exactly what it does without charging appropriately of note, I have no idea exactly what it does.. sooooo Download,install,learn, come back and say sorry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MR2 0 Posted February 24, 2014 I don't believe that for a second Milestone allows lots of view however they have an actual video wall product that's quite expensive, I bet that no-one else does exactly what it does without charging appropriately of note, I have no idea exactly what it does.. sooooo Download,install,learn, come back and say sorry or, shoot the question off to Milestone and ask them to prove their product... how much is the cheapest Avigilon compatible 3mp camera? does it get near a $130 Dahua? but if they offer it free that they are making their money anywhere. not saying it's not a good solution, but I'm yet to see anyone offering a (quality) free ride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewireguys 3 Posted February 24, 2014 I don't believe that for a second Milestone allows lots of view however they have an actual video wall product that's quite expensive, I bet that no-one else does exactly what it does without charging appropriately of note, I have no idea exactly what it does.. sooooo Download,install,learn, come back and say sorry or, shoot the question off to Milestone and ask them to prove their product... how much is the cheapest Avigilon compatible 3mp camera? does it get near a $130 Dahua? but if they offer it free that they are making their money anywhere. not saying it's not a good solution, but I'm yet to see anyone offering a (quality) free ride. Hik cameras work great Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
varascope 0 Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) Avigllon vs Milestone Sunday, Sunday, Sunday Edited February 26, 2014 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MR2 0 Posted February 26, 2014 Avigllon vs Milestone Sunday, Sunday, Sunday haha nice, I don't know enough about Avigilon to really compare, it's very good news that the Hikvision's work on it though, might actually get some pricing and do a compare, the next site we need a system in maybe I'll load it up and see how it fairs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted February 27, 2014 Hard to prove out unless you physically have a video wall to test it on. Getting the software is the easy part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites