1advanced 0 Posted April 21, 2014 Hello, I was doing some research and came across this forum, so thought I'd write. Hopefully I can learn something here. Also I am fairly new in the CCTV industry and so far I only installed basic Swann DVR with cameras with coaxial wiring etc, very basic and from what I learned the Swann is not even "truly" professional, so I am trying to find better solutions yet to stay within a budget. I need to install roughly 18-24 cameras so I know I need a 24 channel DVR. Some cameras are going to be very basic, others I want to be quality and have good resolution, at least 3-5 of those need to be quality. One of the problems I've faced with Swann cameras is that I was not able to read a license plate number of a car, so would need cameras that are good enough in such cases. What kind of DVR would you recommend? Also which cameras? Should I run coaxial cable or CAT5e? I did coaxial before, but someone told me CAT5e are good and easier to install etc, but then someone else said that if it is stretched too long it will loose video quality, is that true or not? Also someone told me that on some DVRs the quality or FPS is shared by all cameras and sometimes the advertised quality of video for DVR only works with lets say have of cameras it is capable of, but if all are installed the quality is reduced, is that true or not? Also should I consider IP/network cameras? Would appreciate if someone could explain some of these things to me. Thanks in advance! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1advanced 0 Posted April 22, 2014 Are there any descent DVRs that can support 26 channels and lets say part coaxial/analog and part IP camera? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Securame 0 Posted April 22, 2014 Go for a hybrid system. You should be able to get a system that supports something like 16 analog channels + 16 IP megapixel channels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1advanced 0 Posted April 22, 2014 Go for a hybrid system. You should be able to get a system that supports something like 16 analog channels + 16 IP megapixel channels. I think that would be ideal, what are some of the good/reputable brands in such systems? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Securame 0 Posted April 23, 2014 I am sure there can be many answers hgere, but I work mainly with Hikvision and Dahua systems. Nice quality for the price you pay. They both do have hybrid systems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoshCCTV 0 Posted April 28, 2014 don't know your budget but for what your talking about your talking a few thousand USD.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1advanced 0 Posted April 29, 2014 I am sure there can be many answers hgere, but I work mainly with Hikvision and Dahua systems. Nice quality for the price you pay. They both do have hybrid systems. ok thanks i'll try to look into those. any model in particular you'd recommend? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1advanced 0 Posted April 29, 2014 don't know your budget but for what your talking about your talking a few thousand USD.... we have fairly tight budget. but don't want to get something too cheap or too expensive, just something good. I just need about 3-5 cameras that can make out a license plate number and a face and few more basic just for viewing whats happening at the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoshCCTV 0 Posted April 29, 2014 don't know your budget but for what your talking about your talking a few thousand USD.... we have fairly tight budget. but don't want to get something too cheap or too expensive, just something good. I just need about 3-5 cameras that can make out a license plate number and a face and few more basic just for viewing whats happening at the time. Check out those hik vision cams there like 180 a piece and you can use your current computer as long as you can leave it on all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1advanced 0 Posted April 30, 2014 don't know your budget but for what your talking about your talking a few thousand USD.... we have fairly tight budget. but don't want to get something too cheap or too expensive, just something good. I just need about 3-5 cameras that can make out a license plate number and a face and few more basic just for viewing whats happening at the time. Check out those hik vision cams there like 180 a piece and you can use your current computer as long as you can leave it on all the time. Hi, I think I need a DVR/NVR because I need to have mobile/iPhone access. From what I understand I can't set that up with the method you are referring to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1advanced 0 Posted April 30, 2014 Can someone please tell me for sure, if I use CAT5e for wiring and "baluns" will it effect the quality? What is the most feet I can use it to keep good quality? For analog and for megapixel if it makes difference? Thanks I appreciate any information from knowledgeable person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoshCCTV 0 Posted April 30, 2014 Can someone please tell me for sure, if I use CAT5e for wiring and "baluns" will it effect the quality? What is the most feet I can use it to keep good quality? For analog and for megapixel if it makes difference? Thanks I appreciate any information from knowledgeable person. Advance, I'm sure you can setup remote viewing with up cameras. It's pretty basic these days and most PC camera support it. IMHO I would recommend the ip camera because they have better quality for identifying people. Unless you have hd-sdi which you would need to invest in a dvr and also cameras that are sdi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1advanced 0 Posted April 30, 2014 Can someone please tell me for sure, if I use CAT5e for wiring and "baluns" will it effect the quality? What is the most feet I can use it to keep good quality? For analog and for megapixel if it makes difference? Thanks I appreciate any information from knowledgeable person. Advance, I'm sure you can setup remote viewing with up cameras. It's pretty basic these days and most PC camera support it. IMHO I would recommend the ip camera because they have better quality for identifying people. Unless you have hd-sdi which you would need to invest in a dvr and also cameras that are sdi. So are you saying that IP camera even without a DVR can be set up for mobile viewing? It has built in software or software needs to be installed on the computer? How does it work, at least briefly? I think I need a DVR in any case, reason is I have some analog cameras and plan to get IP cameras, I'd like a central location for viewing mobile and recording, hopefully I can get something like this and not too expensive? Do you know of such system, say 16 channels analog and 16 or less for IP in same DVR? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1advanced 0 Posted April 30, 2014 I'm still looking, and thanks for everyone responding. Would something like this be good?: http://www.ebay.com/itm/HYBRID-16Ch-IP-16Ch-H-264-DVR-NVR-Network-HD-HDMI-1080P-Megapixel-2TB-HDD-/181244584880?pt=US_Surveillance_Security_Systems&hash=item2a3304e3b0 I haven't heard of this brand, would I risk buying this and should get a more known brand or this should be good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoshCCTV 0 Posted April 30, 2014 I'm still looking, and thanks for everyone responding. Would something like this be good?:http://www.ebay.com/itm/HYBRID-16Ch-IP-16Ch-H-264-DVR-NVR-Network-HD-HDMI-1080P-Megapixel-2TB-HDD-/181244584880?pt=US_Surveillance_Security_Systems&hash=item2a3304e3b0 I haven't heard of this brand, would I risk buying this and should get a more known brand or this should be good? That one looks like a fake. (Not real ip cam support) You want one with real ip camera support. I would wait for someone to chime in on something they've used. If you buy a standalone dvr it should have the mobile viewing built in! Wish is convenient. Sounds like it would be easier for you to get a standalone dvr. I saw on the forum people talking about dahua dvr. Those sound like a safe bet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Securame 0 Posted April 30, 2014 I am sure there can be many answers hgere, but I work mainly with Hikvision and Dahua systems. Nice quality for the price you pay. They both do have hybrid systems. ok thanks i'll try to look into those. any model in particular you'd recommend? Hikvision 7616HI-ST (16ch analog WD1@25fps, 16ch IP) Dahua DVR1604HF-U (16ch analog D1@25fps, 16ch IP) I am sure there is something newer from Dahua, like 7816, but this is the latest hybrid from Dahua I have used (it is not a new unit). I would recommend the 7616. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1advanced 0 Posted May 1, 2014 I'm still looking, and thanks for everyone responding. Would something like this be good?:http://www.ebay.com/itm/HYBRID-16Ch-IP-16Ch-H-264-DVR-NVR-Network-HD-HDMI-1080P-Megapixel-2TB-HDD-/181244584880?pt=US_Surveillance_Security_Systems&hash=item2a3304e3b0 I haven't heard of this brand, would I risk buying this and should get a more known brand or this should be good? That one looks like a fake. (Not real ip cam support) You want one with real ip camera support. I would wait for someone to chime in on something they've used. If you buy a standalone dvr it should have the mobile viewing built in! Wish is convenient. Sounds like it would be easier for you to get a standalone dvr. I saw on the forum people talking about dahua dvr. Those sound like a safe bet. what do you mean by "fake"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1advanced 0 Posted May 1, 2014 I am sure there can be many answers hgere, but I work mainly with Hikvision and Dahua systems. Nice quality for the price you pay. They both do have hybrid systems. ok thanks i'll try to look into those. any model in particular you'd recommend? Hikvision 7616HI-ST (16ch analog WD1@25fps, 16ch IP) Dahua DVR1604HF-U (16ch analog D1@25fps, 16ch IP) I am sure there is something newer from Dahua, like 7816, but this is the latest hybrid from Dahua I have used (it is not a new unit). I would recommend the 7616. Thanks! Looking at it now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites