CSG 0 Posted January 27, 2006 For $80 more than that Speco, I can have a Sony D/N hi-res (real Sony cam not some oem with "sony" chip), Pelco housing 15" , mount, and 3x8 F1.0 lens dc-auto. With any halfway decent area lighting I will get a real good monochrome night picture with no Ir. Sidenote:I think its funny about how prices are deleted. Anyone can look them up on Spytown, or stumble across them on google. Every tom dick & harry selling cctv equipment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted January 27, 2006 we know that, but to be fare to the dealers on the site that sell those particular products at retail pricing ... and lets not help in the destruction of whats left of the industry, everything here is indexed on google too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSG 0 Posted January 27, 2006 I don't use heaters in my housings, they don't seem to do anything except blow fuses in the power supply, causing service calls i really don't want. Never had a problem here in NY, with cold weather affecting the camera, or frost on the window, so I don't see the need. My question: Can you put together a ex view box camera with external IR, weather proof housing with heater, auto iris IR lens, mechanical IR cut filter for $289? If so what ex-view camera, housing, lens and IR would you use? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VST_Man 1 Posted January 27, 2006 why not get a decent dome and a seperate IR assembly. I guess what we all maybe looking for is a cost effective IR beam that works. In my apps it would have to be a 12VDC or 24VAC low watt. Anything out there that works well without having to pay an "extreme" price? I'll buy one today! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gesualdo 0 Posted January 27, 2006 (edited) Ditto. the news reported that on this date in 1994 NYC had a low of -19 degrees F. We usually are colder than they are where I'm at, so a heater or low temp. camera seems to be a necessity. The 9100ex is rated to +14F and I can't find the eclipse specs. Would like to know. Speco was rated to -20F Still gonna wait and read some more. Edited January 27, 2006 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JMANOFNVS 0 Posted January 27, 2006 I can do it for around that CSG for the right quantity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
200mph 0 Posted January 27, 2006 Ditto. the news reported that on this date in 1994 NYC had a low of -19 degrees F. We usually are colder than they are where I'm at, so a heater or low temp. camera seems to be a necessity. The 9100ex is rated to +14F and I can't find the eclipse specs. Would like to know. Speco was rated to -20F Still gonna wait and read some more. The heater's in the Speco and 9100ex are really just two 1/2 watt or 1 watt resistors right next to the IR diodes. A quality 200mw infrared diode only has a radiant flux efficiency of about 15%. That means 85% of the energy is turning to heat and 15% to IR light. The Speco and 9100ex both have 25 diodes. Let's say they are using quality 200mw rated output IR diodes. At 15% efficiency the IR's are generating about 4.25 watts of heat inside the camera for the IR. The resistors(heater) are generating 1-2 watts total. The internal electronics are also generating heat. What I'm trying to say is the heater(resistors) may help a little but most of the heat around the lens will be generated by the IR at night when it's coldest. The Speco and 9100ex are identical camera's I would not measure the camera by the -20 degree and 14 degree ratings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gesualdo 0 Posted January 28, 2006 good to know. See I learned something new today just by waiting and reading some more I knew it would work if I tried hard. All kidding aside, Thanks alot. Gesualdo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gesualdo 0 Posted January 28, 2006 So the 9100ex should operate at the same temps as the speco ht7815 even though they don't rate it for this temp. Will they cover it if it doesn't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
