FU POE

[Dirk_D 0]

If POE switches weren't so expensive they'd make more sense, I think this is how I'll do it: (my bright idea of the morning)

 

 

That's a 32 channel Dahua NVR on the lower right: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6102331342.html

 

and a Digital Loggers switch on the left: http://shop.bizsyscon.com/digital-loggers-web-power-switch-7-web-script-and-program-control/?gclid=COyZlf-Cxb4CFbRxMgod0hgAHA

 

3mp bullets I've ordered to experiment with: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6102331341.html

 

also a 2 MP PTZ: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6102331341.html

[thewireguys 3]

How many ports do you need? POE switches are not that expensive and WAY less of the headache then what you posted

[Dirk_D 0]

at least 16, preferably 24.

 

Do the POE switches have the ability to cut power to individual ports?

 

I don't have a problem with the wiring, I think it'd be simple enough and not take much time.... plus the IP switched power supply would allow me to reset the power adapters, switch, and NVR etc, while maintaining the Individually Fused status to each camera.

 

>>>edit: the only extras is the two patch panels and the power adapters. The bullet cams take 12vdc, and the PTZ takes 24vac, so there's already a complication there.

[thewireguys 3]

Yea you can power cycle each port on the switch not problem.

 

That setup will be a nightmare to trouble shoot.

 

Get a POE switch and make your life much easier.

[Dirk_D 0]

what would you do with the PTZ that requires 24VAC?

[Dirk_D 0]

I kind of like the idea of this but it's $300 for 8 ports: http://www.digital-loggers.com/poe15.html

 

I found a 24 port 10/100 switch for $329... I'll have to get a small switch to play with.

[thewireguys 3]

what would you do with the PTZ that requires 24VAC?

 

All of the PTZ cameras we use support POE or POE+. The Dahua PTZ I have uses POE+

[thewireguys 3]

I kind of like the idea of this but it's $300 for 8 ports: http://www.digital-loggers.com/poe15.html

 

I found a 24 port 10/100 switch for $329... I'll have to get a small switch to play with.

 

 

No need for the digital loggers. Just get a managed POE switch with enough power for your camera load.

[ssmith10pn 0]

What's with the dual patch panels?

[myiicu 0]

+1 Managed POE switch.

 

Cisco SF300-24PP

Fast Ethernet 10/100

24 Ports POE+

180W Total

9.52 Mpps

12.8 Gbps

40.4 dB

 

Warranty: Limited lifetime with next business day advance replacement

 

about $530

[Securame 0]

 

I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that setup, lol...

[Dirk_D 0]

What's with the dual patch panels?

 

The top one would be like a standard network, punched down to 568B, the other side (bottom) would be where the power was injected - punched down to 568B (using pins 1,2,3,6) but pins 4,5,7,8 or whatever would be used to send power (the pigtails hanging from below signify power). I haven't even looked at the POE & POE+ standards (or whatever they are) so this is just me fleshing out an idea.

 

it was about the cleanest way to do a bunch of them I thought of, at first it was just a simple biscuit jack.

[ssmith10pn 0]

POE also uses 1-2, 3-6

[Dirk_D 0]

POE also uses 1-2, 3-6

 

Damn.

 

.....shopping around a little - I'm only seeing generic switches @ most of my CCTV vendors, and I'm not getting much better @ larger suppliers (maybe $20). So far, it looks like the m4100 is the best option? Any landmines? I see the first one listed is not managed, is that a huge disadvantage?

 

Now I need to read up on the POE / POE+ specs I guess. Maybe later.

 

SF100D-16P-NA: $186.39 - not managed

http://www.amazon.com/CISCO-SYSTEMS-SF100D-16P-NA-Port-100/dp/B007RVXKTS

 

Netgear ProSafe M4100-26-POE: 24-port 10/100 PoE Managed L2+ Switch (FSM7226P) :$269

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G15X0910&cm_re=M4100-26-POE-_-33-122-530-_-Product

 

Cisco SG300-20 (SRW2016-K9-NA) 20-port Gigabit Managed Switch: $324

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833150090&cm_re=managed_poe_switch-_-33-150-090-_-Product

[thewireguys 3]

Go with the managed switch if you want to be able to power cycle the cameras from the switch GUI. If you only have one POE+ device just get a single POE+ injector to power it and use the switch to power your other cameras.

[myiicu 0]

Cisco SG300-20 (SRW2016-K9-NA) 20-port Gigabit Managed Switch: $324

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833150090&cm_re=managed_poe_switch-_-33-150-090-_-Product

 

This switch does not support POE or POE+.

 

 

I stay away from all things Netjunk/Netgear.

I walked into a retail computer supplier a couple of years ago and saw thousands of refurbished Netgear switches for sale.

 

The Cisco switches are not the most quiet units but I have found them very reliable.

[Dirk_D 0]

 

This switch does not support POE or POE+.

 

I stay away from all things Netgear.

I walked into a retail computer supplier a couple of years ago and saw thousands of refurbished Netgear switches for sale.

 

 

I've always liked Netgear's equipment, and I think you're wrong - all 24 ports are POE and can be increased to POE+ with an external power supply:

 

http://www.netgear.com/business/products/switches/managed/M4100-26-POE.aspx#tab-techspecs

 

Netgear ProSafe M4100-26-POE: 24-port 10/100 PoE Managed L2+ Switch (FSM7226P) :$269

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product

 

I have a friend who's a Cisco rep, I'll hit him up. I have one on the way, wish me luck. I'm also not past the idea of making my own injectors, but I'll work on that when I have more time & equipment to experiment with.

[myiicu 0]

I was referring to the Cisco SG300-20 (SRW2016-K9-NA) 20-port Gigabit Managed Switch: $324.

This switch no POE, no POE+.

 

Any switch can be hacked. Depends on how much you value your time...

 

In my past life, I was a network consultant for many large firms over 25+ years.

I have been using Cisco products for over 10 years.

Netgear has always been considered low end.

[Dirk_D 0]

I kind of figured as much - I wonder why you'd link a non POE switch at all.

 

I was referring to the Cisco SG300-20 (SRW2016-K9-NA) 20-port Gigabit Managed Switch: $324.

This switch no POE, no POE+.

 

Any switch can be hacked. Depends on how much you value your time...

 

In my past life, I was a network consultant for many large firms over 25+ years.

I have been using Cisco products for over 10 years.

Netgear has always been considered low end.

Edited May 27, 2014 by Guest

[ssnapier 0]

Go with the managed switch if you want to be able to power cycle the cameras from the switch GUI. If you only have one POE+ device just get a single POE+ injector to power it and use the switch to power your other cameras.

 

 

Yup, this is by far the cheapest (and most functional) option.

[myiicu 0]

Go with the managed switch if you want to be able to power cycle the cameras from the switch GUI. If you only have one POE+ device just get a single POE+ injector to power it and use the switch to power your other cameras.

 

+1 thewireguys recommendation.

 

Not too many cameras need POE+.

 

Use single POE+ injector for your POE+ camera.

Use managed/unmanaged POE switch for your other POE cameras.

 

 

Cisco SF300-24P (SRW224G4P-K9)

Managed

Fast Ethernet 10/100

24 Ports POE

180W Total

9.52 Mpps

12.8 Gbps

41 dB

 

Warranty: Limited lifetime with next business day advance replacement

 

about $400

http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-SF300-24P-24-port-Managed-SRW224G4P-K9-NA/dp/B0041ORNFQ

[Dirk_D 0]

I've been playing around in the switch for a while and I can't seem to figure out how to cycle the power on the ports yet - any pointers on what to look for?

 

[Dirk_D 0]

Here's the email from Netgear I received after registering the switch:

 

Dear Dirk,

 

Thank you for registering your product. Please print a copy of this email for your record. It contains important information which is required to obtain service.

 

Notes:

• Refer to your local ProSupport phone number when calling NETGEAR for support.

• Retain a copy of the proof of purchase for your NETGEAR unit.

• Make sure that NETGEAR Registration Portal has the correct physical address where the covered unit is located. Incorrect or incomplete address may delay the timely delivery of service when needed. Promptly update the address on record when you relocate the unit.

 

Customer Number : x

Product Number : x

Serial Number : x

Type : Onsite NBD Replacement - NA, 3 Yrs

HW Purchased Date : 29 May 2014

Onsite Coverage Expiration Date : 28 May 2017

 

 

ProSupport Phone Numbers:

Australia 1300 361 254

Austria 0800 202 314

Belgium 0800 58 093

France 0800 302 811

Germany 0800 101 5704

Ireland 1800 251 078 pin 1470

Luxembourg (Deutsch) 0049 180 590 59 59

Luxembourg (Francais) 0033 820 88 71 77

Netherlands 0800 020 58 84

UK 0808 234 4027

United States 866 842 7419

 

 

Onsite Hardware Replacement Support

 

NETGEAR, at its discretion, will provide services using a combination of remote technical remediation, advanced hardware replacement and onsite hardware replacement. In the event of a hardware failure, NETGEAR will provide the following support:

• Ship a replacement unit for Next Business Day (NBD)* arrival

• Dispatch a technician to arrive onsite who will

o Back up and copy the configuration files** (if necessary)

o Remove the failed unit

o Install the replacement unit (including restoring the configuration file)

o Test to ensure that the replacement unit is operational

o Package the failed unit and leave it with you for pick up

• Coverage & response time: 9 AM – 5 PM, Next Business Day

 

* Calls must be received and replacement authorization must be issued before 2 PM (local time) to receive NBD replacement support. Pre-registration of the products is required to ensure NBD service delivery

 

** See customer responsibilities on backup of configuration files

 

 

 

Terms and Conditions

 

http://onsite.netgear.com

[thewireguys 3]

I've been playing around in the switch for a while and I can't seem to figure out how to cycle the power on the ports yet - any pointers on what to look for?

 

 

Click on "POE Port Configuration"

[Dirk_D 0]