scaryhalo 0 Posted January 27, 2006 Can somebody please explain the 'Burst (BW) Setting' on these cameras for me. Could this if set incorectly be a cause of excessive recording on a GV 1480 card set to motion record during the dusk and dawn times of the day? The camera's have at this stage switched over to BW, there are no probs during the day or night just during those 2 hours of twilight. Other than that, they give superb pics, the domes have even got the heater accessory fitted (don't see that very often). They are all installed in very awkward high positions, don't fancy revisiting these more than once. The original installer is no more and I was looking through all the documentation that was left, the list of settings on these things is quite long, to say the least! but the burst setting stood out. Any help much appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted January 27, 2006 Check the DVR motion setting level, as the light changes (sun up, sun down, lights coming on) it will trigger the motiong detection. Turn it down some and it wont do it as much. Also, lights flickering and any interference in the image will trigger motion recording. Mask out the sky and any lights, street lights, etc. I generally set the motion to level 7 but it will depend on the application and location for yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JMANOFNVS 0 Posted January 27, 2006 Definitely do that but also what is the problem with the pic at twilight? Blurred, bleached out, pixely, to dark or what? What dvr are you using? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G22 0 Posted January 27, 2006 Sorry, don't have an answer on the Burst option. I never tried it on our 474 at work. I just left it in color mode only, and never went back to the PITA menu stuff on the ladder again, even though I would much like to, so I could change some settings.. That is the reason though that I picked up a couple Panasonic Data WJ-MP204C Multiplexers (just sold one recently actually)... so I won't have to go up the ladder again anytime soon with a small remote monitor (other than cleaning the housing lens perhaps) and fiddle with the many menu options on the 484 and similar Pan cams. Along with the WJ-MP204C (or an actual Panasonic Video MUX or DVR with the PS-DATA control on the 1st 4 ports) and a Panasonic system controller (ie. WV-CU360C)... you can access the cam setup menu remotely which makes life easier. IMO anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sf1964 0 Posted January 27, 2006 l just bought some 474 panasonic domes and was also interested in being able to adjust camera settings remotely ie not up on a ladder etc,can anyone tell me how to do this and with what equipment l would need and what are the basic adjustments l should be doing in a low light dimly lit bar,any info would be great, especially from someone with experience with these particular cams.! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G22 0 Posted January 27, 2006 l just bought some 474 panasonic domes and was also interested in being able to adjust camera settings remotely ie not up on a ladder etc,can anyone tell me how to do this and with what equipment l would need and what are the basic adjustments l should be doing in a low light dimly lit bar,any info would be great, especially from someone with experience with these particular cams.! I believe these are the 3 options available. Someone correct if wrong. 1. Panasonic DVR (1st 4 ports) + System Controller (ie. WV-CU360C) 2. Panasonic Data MUX WJ-MP204C + System Controller (ie. WV-CU360C)... cameras into the MUX, then loop out to the non-Panasonic DVR. 3. Panasonic Video MUX (1st 4 ports) + System Controller (ie. WV-CU360C)... cameras into the MUX, then out to the VCR. I am trying to save up to do #2. I emailed Panasonic tech a while back, and they said I would be able to access the cam setup remotely, and still use any DVR I want. The WJ-MP204C has only 4 ports BTW. I also would love to get a hold of a Panasonic WJ-HD3* DVR. They are a beautiful piece of hardware, but have a gazillion setup options it seems. I remember watching a tech have a heck of a time trying to figure out how to work it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaryhalo 0 Posted January 27, 2006 Thanks for the quick replys & suggestions. The motion setting is on 7! with no sky in pic. There are no lights except for 2 1000W halogens activated by 40 mtr pir's, these are not being activated and causing the problem motion recording. Have reviewd a few hours of these recordings, no motion to be seen! As the camera switches over to bw then of course you get a minute or so of recording then slowly as the light level drops the motion detect on the card keeps starting to record and keeps on starting every 7 minutes or so until it is dark, very dark. (can still see area under view on pc monitor, just). Behavior is then normal until dawn when the whole thing repeats itself until the camera switches back to colour (english spelling ). Picture quality remains superb throughout with a tiny tiny amount of noise right at the darkest point (not recording at this time anyway). The card is a GV 1480 running 7.04 software with 2 gigs of mem and 4 HD's giving 1.3Tb of storage! all cams (all Panasonic) set to 30 fps at max resolution (pal) all running on a Asus mb with a 3.6 P4 on XP Pro. The pc and psu for the cams are all plugged into great big APC ups. I know the last bit was a bit irrelevant but I was impressed with the whole set up. I think I will go and buy one of these Pannys and have a long play with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jisaac 0 Posted January 29, 2006 sorry if i am repeating what someone said. I did not read what peoples reply was. But anyways the bw burst on those cameras are actually the color being alowed into a bw shot. Ya know how sometimes in bw shot you have some parts that are color? Thats what that is. I usually leave it off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaryhalo 0 Posted February 5, 2006 Yup thanks for that. Have turned off the burst setting, reduced auto gain to it's medium setting and switched off the X2 gain in BW mode and put the switch over to BW to the low threshold. Major improvement in motion recording (or not recording with no motion-if that makes sense) Very pleased now. Just wish one could access these settings through a pc (like Bocsh) instead of all the dedicated Panny equip you need. On a side note, was very impressed with this Geovision 1480 card but then the guys pc was a mighty P4 3.6 just dedicated to his security system. Once again thanks for all the replys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted February 5, 2006 i think the cost of the bosch blinkx equipment (which isnt cheap), and the pano equipment, is probaly around the same .. im going to be working on an EXE program for Remote programming of OSD cameras ... shortly .. after this current project - they'll integrate into the Geo also - over the internet / network. Meanwhile, if you send me the camera and the protocols I can get something going quicker. .. most manufacturers will give out the protocols. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jisaac 0 Posted February 5, 2006 ya i wish you could access it from the dvr. I am starting to think about going to cameras with protocols just for that reason right there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
