Netgear ethernet switches

[empedokles 0]

What is the difference between

GS108PE-300EUS

GS108PE-100EUS

GS108P-100EUS

?

 

Is there a cheaper solution for 3 PoE-ports?

[mkkoskin 0]

I've never used Netgear switches, but I know TP-Link TL-SF1008P 10/100Mbps switch (http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-SF1008P-100Mbps-8-Port-802-3af/dp/B003CFATT2) is reliable as we've used them in our systems a lot.

 

With 3 cameras, you should be ok with just the 100Mbps ports, unless you go overkill 35Mbps bitrate per camera

[empedokles 0]

Yeah, I thought about gigabit ethernet for a moment to be future ready.

[Sawbones 0]

If you get enough cameras, you will need gigabit (it's good to plan ahead, because many CCTV systems grow like weeds once the owners discover all the stuff you can do with them).

 

If you're going to do it once, go gigabit right from the start.

[empedokles 0]

I believe still not more than 2-3 cameras. It's not for security, just my private little garden project.

[buellwinkle 0]

There's plenty of good 4 PoE port switches and you don't need gigabit for 4 cameras. I would get the ZyXel ES1100-8P as it plugs straight into 110V with no power brick and gives you full power on all ports (most do not) and is fanless for quiet operation.

[Sawbones 0]

He doesn't need gigabit NOW... But he might in the future.

 

Just sayin'...

[buellwinkle 0]

Cameras are 100Mbps, so no need for gigabit with 3-4 cameras and if he outgrew it, get a larger gigabit switch or just another 100Mbps 4 port switch as long as the backbone for the network is gigabit that the NVR or PC is attached to. I'm actually hunting for a 24 port gigabit desktop switch because I'm maxed out on two 8 port switches and to think I started this all 5 years ago on one cheap Trendnet 4 port PoE switch that can barely power 3 cameras.

 

We run 16 cameras on one project on 100Mbps PoE switches that feed up to a gigabit switch with the NVR server and no problems yet. Each PoE switch has 2-5 cameras + 2-3 PoE access control modules, all cameras are 3MP. The reason is the network is connected via 100Mbps extenders going out about 1/4 to 1/2 mile each + 1 100Mbps wireless bridge, gigabit switches would not make a difference. I figure that each switch is 100Mbps feeding a 1,000Mbps backbone, so 4 switches = 400Mbps throughput to the NVR PC. Will be adding 2 of the Hik 720P covert cameras soon, hopefully won't tip the balance too much.

[empedokles 0]

Do Netgear Switches have power bricks?

[buellwinkle 0]

Not a power brick, worse, a wall wort on the 4 PoE 8 port switch - http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/GS108P/GS108Pv1_IGprt_21Sept2012.pdf

[empedokles 0]

What about the Gigabit version of the Zyxel? TP-Link probably is only government-grade.

[empedokles 0]

If there is no brick on these, it comes down to this two guys:

http://www.zyxel.ch/de/products/zyxel-gs1100-8hp/

and

http://www.zyxel.ch/de/products/zyxel-gs1900-8hp/ (I'm a bit afraid of the term web-managed here.)

 

Edit: It also seems to have a brick:

http://www.ricardo.ch/kaufen/computer-und-netzwerk/hubs-und-switches/ethernet/switches/zyxel-8-port-switch-mit-poe-gs1900-8hp/v/an732820974/

[gb5102 0]

If there is no brick on these, it comes down to this two guys:

http://www.zyxel.ch/de/products/zyxel-gs1100-8hp/

and

http://www.zyxel.ch/de/products/zyxel-gs1900-8hp/ (I'm a bit afraid of the term web-managed here.)

 

Edit: It also seems to have a brick:

http://www.ricardo.ch/kaufen/computer-und-netzwerk/hubs-und-switches/ethernet/switches/zyxel-8-port-switch-mit-poe-gs1900-8hp/v/an732820974/

 

Both of the ones you linked to have a power brick.

 

I can say the ES1100-8P recommended by buellwinkle is a solid switch, I've used a bunch of them. A benefit of 100mb switches is the ethernet ports seem to be 'tougher' when it comes to withstanding power surges/esd when compared to gigabit switches. I've lost a quite few gigabit ports after storms over the years, never had a problem with a 100mb switch though.

[empedokles 0]

Is there no Cat6 rated Router without a brick?

[buellwinkle 0]

Cat6 is just a wire spec, from a switch point of view it does not matter. The difference between Cat5 and Cat6 is the thickness of the wire so it's able to carry a higher speed connection, not needed for cameras. The only time we use Cat6 is when using extenders that require it, otherwise no reason to.

[empedokles 0]

Yes, I meant a gigabyte switch, that manages the load of cat6 cables. Is there one without a brick? And may I disable web-management of the more expensive device somewhere?

[buellwinkle 0]

I have not seen one yet other than large rack mount switches, but not in a desktop switch. Why do you need gigabit for 3 cameras?

[empedokles 0]

I might guess the framerates of the Hikvision (certainly not 25 frames as advertised) could increase. No?

[buellwinkle 0]

The max bitrate I think you can even set on the camera is 8Mb. So not sure how faster frame rates would change that, all it would do is compress more. Also, many people don't even record at the full frame rate to save on disk space. I've been happy in some projects using 10fps or 15fps at the most. The only reason I can think of for faster frame rates, like 60fps is to try and capture slight of hand theft, like in a casino or a jewelry store.

[empedokles 0]

I followed your advice and ordered the Zyxel. I film crows, they are fast.

[empedokles 0]

Do you think I can mount the zyxel on the wall, but with the ports to the right hand side?

 

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Edit: Solved.

[empedokles 0]

Are there any dummy plugs to prevent that dust settles on my switch which is mounted upside down?

[MaxIcon 0]

You can use uncrimped connectors, or cover the ports with tape.

[empedokles 0]

Thanks, tape will do.