Casino project

[survtech 0]

For DVRs, the Honeywell Enterprise system and the Dallmeier are two good choices for larger casinos. Synectics Systems and AD also sell decent enterprise DVRs. For smaller casinos, the Sanyo Casino DVRs are an inexpensive option but they have a few drawbacks, including latency.

 

IMO Pelco makes the best matrix. Their cameras are also OK, as are Ganz fixed domes (ZCD 3000 series), and Ikegami, especially in low light.

[lynndiwagon 0]

Just finished 1000+ casino job...consulting part only not integration. I personally wouldn't do anything other than 100% IP. Axis, IQinvision for cameras and good NVR. We used Petards UVMS with 600T of raid 5 storage. Virtual matrix. No more analog/VCR's etc. All CAT6, POE switches. Good luck, there's nothing like a good old casino job to raise the blood pressure.

 

Lynn Wagoner

[survtech 0]

What cameras did you use for table games? What is the latency? How does that affect PTZ control? What is the frame rate? Did you have to meet MICS specs?

[lynndiwagon 0]

We used Covi's for the first casino. Probably wouldn't do that again. Built a new casino and used IQinvision cameras over tables. go to their website and you can see some sample pictures from casino. Good luck

[lynndiwagon 0]

Sorry,didn't answer all questions. We use Axis 231D's for all PTZ's. Petards UVMS integrated 485 control into software so we can use computer joystick or mouse for control. There IS some latency but they get used to it. An excellent Optical IP PTZ camera. Only drawback is it is not POE.

[Biphase 0]

BOSCH

 

Analog

 

Ya got the infamous Allegiant Matrix....been around since the Burle/Phillips days.

 

IP

 

Bosch Vidos-VRM with IP cameras/encoders...

 

 

Need more info on what you want, and I will help you design it.

[survtech 0]

There IS some latency but they get used to it.

That's exactly what Dallmeier says about their virtual matrix!

 

How do the operators get used to the nearly 9ft. difference between a vehicle's actual position and its observed position with 150ms latency when the vehicle is travelling at 40mph?

[ipvideosolutions 0]

If you want to go IP I would recommend Bosch... Their VIPx1600 is a nice solution.

[tomcctv 190]

hi we have casinos in the uk but we have to use a company in usa for are dvrs this is the only blu-ray dvr it is the top casino dvr on the market.

http://www.aventuratechnologies.com/pdf/Real-Time%20Casino%20Solution_v01.2.pdf

[net surv 0]

We have an AD 1024 matrix and we use all AD PTZ's. For cameras we mainly use panasonic but we also have Ganz, Sanyo, Ultrak and ARM in use. Covi cameras are great for detail, we tried several options, but only the Covi cameras could identify the pips and the suit of the cards from a 30 foot ceiling.

 

I know this post is old, but I'm wondering if anyone has experience with the Covi cameras in a gaming environment. Is G-MEN saying he can just identify pips and suits live-view using the camera zoom or can he see them after the fact using digital zoom from the DVR?

[survtech 0]

I've been wondering that as well. The pips are no problem to identify with several analog cameras, including the Pelco C10 series, Ikegami ISD-A30 series and many others. The keys are proper lighting of the table and disabling camera AGC.

 

Suits and value of face cards are a different story. At best, we can ID approximately 70% of the non-face-card suits with any non-megapixel camera.

 

I've seen some previews of a new Panasonic camera that claims 600 lines of resolution and have asked for a demo. I'll report my findings here or on ipvideomarket.info.

[Biphase 0]

Bosch (Burle, Phillips) Allegiant switchers are in ALOT of casinos....

[survtech 0]

Bosch (Burle, Phillips) Allegiant switchers are in ALOT of casinos....

As are Pelco, AD and Honeywell Maxpro.

[survtech 0]

We finally received the Panasonic WV-CW504 demo. Although it shows some promise for WDR applications, it is basically useless for most indoor casino applications. For one thing, it weighs as much as a small car ( ). This camera would definitely need to have a safety chain tied to the roof support structure to prevent it from seriously injuring someone if it fell.

 

For another, the menus are far more complicated than is necessary. We could live with that after setting one or two up for specific applications, then duplicating the settings prior to installation but the third thing we noticed is that despite the claims of 650 lines of resolution, the images are no clearer than the 480-540 line cameras we currently use. Although I acknowledge the limiting factor(s) may be our matrix switch (Pelco 9780) and/or our monitors, we are still unable to identify the suits of more than 70% of the cards; which is what we really want to gain.

 

I guess IP megapixel, or maybe HDcctv, are the only viable options.

[net surv 0]

Heavy, complicated, expensive and without any added benefit. I'm suprised we don't already use them here.

 

I'm supposed to get a demo of a soon-to-be-released HD solution and will post any findings here.

[bpzle 0]

hi we have casinos in the uk but we have to use a company in usa for are dvrs this is the only blu-ray dvr it is the top casino dvr on the market.

http://www.aventuratechnologies.com/pdf/Real-Time%20Casino%20Solution_v01.2.pdf

Blu-ray DVR???

[survtech 0]

Some of their PC-based hybrid DVR/NVR's come with a Blu-Ray burner.

http://www.aventuratechnologies.com/search/?search_query=blu-ray

 

Of course, any PC-based recorder can have a Blu-Ray burner so that's not necessarily a bonus!

[bpzle 0]

Some of their PC-based hybrid DVR/NVR's come with a Blu-Ray burner.

http://www.aventuratechnologies.com/search/?search_query=blu-ray

 

Of course, any PC-based recorder can have a Blu-Ray burner so that's not necessarily a bonus!

that's what I was thinking... not a big deal

[alasl01 0]

Well there are several companies that you can use on the DVR end.

 

American Dynamics (of course)

Indigovision (pretty good)

Innotech (only their enterprise edition for gaming, but it is great)

GE (not crazy about them)

DM (average)

 

On the camera end any quality PTZ with Pelco D, don't look at price but overall quality of the equipment and support.

[survtech 0]

I've seen some previews of a new Panasonic camera that claims 600 lines of resolution and have asked for a demo. I'll report my findings here or on ipvideomarket.info.

We obtained a demo of the WC-CW504 and here are my impressions:

* HEAVY (4lbs.) - this thing is a beast. Don't put it in a ceiling without a safety chain.

* Menus - way too complicated and the programming buttons are hard to reach.

* 650/700 lines? - Maybe if you have switching and monitor equipment with equivalent specs. Otherwise no better than any other good 500+/- camera.

 

I have no particular problem with cameras that can accomodate many varying jobs and I think the WV-CW504 could be an excellent camera for some applications. I just don't relish standing at the top of a ladder futzing with numerous menus and sub-menus while trying to juggle a monitor and find tiny buttons that are difficult to reach with tiny legends buried under the camera itself.

 

WAKE UP PANASONIC! How about including a remote control for the settings? How about including usable presets? How about putting this bloated beast on a diet? Finally, how about keeping the price within reason? This puppy costs as much as many megapixel IP cameras!

[alexdsds 0]

Also you can check this company they have pretty nice DVR for casinos

dallmeier cctv