Needing to post warning signs re: CCTV Systems being present

[CraigVM62 0]

Was reading on a motorcycle forum where the subject of CCTV Systems came about. A person stated that in his area "So. Ca" unless you have signs warning that cameras are recording video material, any material that is recorded can not be used as evidence against the criminal. Was wondering if the individual was confused, or if such laws do exist ???

[securitymonster 0]

I believe it varies from state to state. In Oregon you don't have to post signs unless you are recording audio. You might just call the local police to see what they have to say!

[CSG 0]

In NY you don't need to post signs. However many do for the deterrence effect.

 

Audio might be different, it tends to come down to the reasonable expectation of privacy. While no one would have an expectation of privacy to be seen (video) while on the street, a conversation between two people on the street would be assumed to be private from being monitored by a third person.

[Jasper 0]

Was reading on a motorcycle forum where the subject of CCTV Systems came about. A person stated that in his area "So. Ca" unless you have signs warning that cameras are recording video material, any material that is recorded can not be used as evidence against the criminal. Was wondering if the individual was confused, or if such laws do exist ???

 

I'm in CA and you don't have to post signs for Video, only audio. I am sure there is some exceptions, but I don't know what they are off hand. If it is a publice place in general they can be recorded.

[rory 0]

no signs at all needed here, though they can be helpful sometimes ... Course if the criminal cant read or doesnt know what a CCTV Camera looks like, then ... well ..

[cctvsussex 0]

That’s interesting over here in the UK we’ve got a heap of red tape.

 

In the UK all non domestic cctv installations must have warning signs when your entering the area under surveillance. It must display the name of the organisation and contact details too.

 

 

Also you have to be registered with the Information Commissioners’ office under the Data Protection Act. Which looks like this

 

Purpose 5

Crime Prevention and Prosecution of Offenders

Purpose Description:

 

Crime prevention and detection and the apprehension and prosecution of offenders.

 

Data Controllers further description of Purpose:

 

INCLUDES USE OF CLOSED-CIRCUIT TELEVISION FOR THE MONITORING AND COLLECTION

OF SOUND AND/OR VISUAL IMAGES FOR THE PURPOSE OF MAINTAINING THE SECURITY OF

PREMISES, FOR PREVENTING CRIME AND INVESTIGATING CRIME.

 

Data subjects are:

 

Customers and clients

Offenders and suspected offenders

 

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC

THOSE INSIDE, ENTERING OR IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY OF THE AREA UNDER

SURVEILLANCE

 

Data classes are:

 

Personal Details

Goods or Services Provided

Offences (Including Alleged Offences)

Criminal Proceedings, Outcomes And Sentences.

 

SOUND AND/OR VISUAL IMAGES

PERSONAL APPEARANCE AND BEHAVIOUR

 

Sources (S) and Disclosures (D)(1984 Act). Recipients (1998 Act):

 

SECURITY ORGANISATIONS

 

Data subjects themselves

Business associates and other professional advisers

Employees and agents of the data controller

Suppliers, providers of goods or services

Persons making an enquiry or complaint

Police forces

 

Transfers:

 

None outside the European Economic Area

 

all the best

 

james

[Cooperman 0]

Hi cctvsussex, and welcome.

 

To be strictly accurate, when it comes to CCTV, not all businesses need to register under the Data Protection Act.

 

The requirement for notification and compliance is based on the way in which a system is used.

 

Apparently, following a court direction about eighteen months ago, it was decided that where a system is being used 'passively', with nobody actively monitoring the activities of individual "Data Subjects", then it is exempt from the requirement to notify.

 

I wonder why the words 'joke' and 'absolute' suddenly spring to mind

[jisaac 0]

shoot I love to flood the area with our signs. It's great marketing. Plus you make the customers pay for the signs. So its free great marketing