scottj 0 Posted March 23, 2006 reflashed the firmware? Do you mean just installed a new device driver? Scottj Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
200mph 0 Posted March 24, 2006 reflashed the firmware? Do you mean just installed a new device driver? Scottj No it reflashes the Card. At least on my GV1240x16 [General] FPGA_File=GVFPGA_V142.fpg CountDown=60 RTL=0 // RTL: 1 for Right to Left Language. Ex. Arabic & Hebrew ... [Text] Text_Title_Proceeding=Firmware update proceeding! Text_MSG_Proceeding=Proceeding! Text_Title_PowerOff=Power-off Warning! Text_MSG=The firmware updates require to shut down your computer now. After shutdown, please restart your computer to complete the following software installation. Text_OK=Power-off Now! Text_Cancel=Power-off Later! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottj 0 Posted March 24, 2006 Interesting, we haven't noticed anything remotely like this and have had 7.1 Beta for months running...strange indeed. I will have to check into that. Version 8.0 doesn't impress me too much, we will stick to the modified 7.04 with new drivers until it has ran flawlessly for at least 4 months on a few machines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattVidionics 0 Posted March 24, 2006 What's the main difference between v7.x and v8. Seems quite a jump in numbers so I was expecting something major? Matt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper 0 Posted March 24, 2006 What's the main difference between v7.x and v8.Seems quite a jump in numbers so I was expecting something major? Matt Here is a link to GeoVisions website explaing the major differences. Many of the changes are cosmetic mostly. The H.264 codec being added should be a plus, but I haven't gotten any feedback on it yet. http://geomis.no-ip.info/english/product/GV-System_feature.htm Does anybody have any comments on the H.264 codec? Do you have to upgrade in order to use the new H.264 codec? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted March 24, 2006 if you want more than 240fps than forget the H.264 as thats where it tops out on the Geo. You will need to use the Mpeg4 ASP which is also very good, better compression than Mpeg4, though with more compression comes more video loss .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
izcream 0 Posted March 24, 2006 What's the main difference between v7.x and v8.Seems quite a jump in numbers so I was expecting something major? Matt http://www.geovision.com.tw/english/4_2.asp ==> You'll see new features and improvements in v8.0. Depending on your application, following could be considered "big" in v8.0: 1. H. 264 codec 2. Privacy mask 3. Instant playback (all casino wants this feature) 4. Customized menu: When you click the Configure button you used to see a long list of features of which not all clients will use. You may make them go away from the menu now. Same as those in the Network button, for example, now you can make Twin Server, Modem... go away from menu, if you know you or your client will never use them. 5. The "evil" eye some of us may have complained -> it is gone from the software interface. 6. POS live viewer: If a customer returns to store 5 min. later questioning a transaction, you could scroll up the Live Viewer and immediately click on and play back the transaction on-screen without having to go to ViewLog. 7. The big thing in v8.0 is really the Control Center, but it is up for optional purchase since it is only useful if you will need to manage more than one DVR (actually, more than several DVRs). With this feature you could remotely configure and troubleshoot a remote DVR, say, for your client. Also it accommodates 64 channels in live and in playback, 256 channels (on four screens) depending on your VGA card. The relational I/O in Control Center is also a big leap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper 0 Posted March 24, 2006 Upgraded a 1240-8 card against my better judgement and now I am paying the price. This is what happened to me • Flashed hardware first • Installed version 8 into another directory and left version 7.05 installed in case I needed to go back. • Password edit crashed program • Schedule settings were lost • Everything else was retained from the previous version although the other install was c:\Multicam rather than the standard c:\GV1240 • Remote playback server will not allow me to input my password to close it, give me message of incorrect password • Once version 8 installed, no going back to version 7. Get keypro error message, system will restart after third message • Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: \system32\hal.dll Please re-install a copy of the above file • So system will not even load now • Make sure you have a fresh disk image before doing this update • Also I would avoid the hardware update unless it won’t work without out because I am not sure exactly what it does yet. It might prevent you from going back to version 7 if you need or want too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper 0 Posted March 24, 2006 I ended up rebuilding the boot file by using the Recovery Console. Uninstalled Version 7.05 as it wouldn't run anymore anyway after I upgrade the firmware that came with version 8 and then the version 8 software. Wish I had a manual. It won't let me choose the H.264 codec for the Webcam or Center, only Mulitcam. But at least I got it working. H.264 really looks like is will be a space saver. Will compare the quality when I get some more video recorded. The new Mpeg 4 ASP looks pretty good as well for saving space while retaining quality. I did not notice an increased load on the CPU either. If anything it might be running a little lower? Maybe the firmware upgrade did do something to improve the performance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kg6mti 0 Posted March 25, 2006 I assume at this point everyone who wants the user manual has found a copy. If not PM me and I can post a zip for the 8.0 user manual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper 0 Posted March 25, 2006 I assume at this point everyone who wants the user manual has found a copy. If not PM me and I can post a zip for the 8.0 user manual. That would be great. I still haven't got one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottj 0 Posted March 25, 2006 who actually needs a manual these days? Come on Troy, just start clicking until it works the way you think it should. Scottj Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper 0 Posted March 25, 2006 I have it working. I just want to know if things are working as they state in the manual. So far I am finding what I would consider to be bugs. I am compiling a list of things that don't seem right. I don't know if there was some type of conflict with that OEM version you gave me and version 8. Multicam crashed when I try to edit passwords. I don't know how I am going to fix this yet. I'm am tinkering with it right now. You would think Geo would release a manual for a end user though. Not everybody is computer literate like I am. If you have a manual Scott how about sending me a copy or posting a link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted March 25, 2006 probably need a Fresh Format ...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper 0 Posted March 25, 2006 I could restore it back to the way it was shortly before I did the upgrade by restoring the whole partition. I don't want to have to reinstall Windows as I would lose all your tweaks you did to my system. I also would like to know what exactly the firmware upgrade did to the Geo card? I could restore my partition, but because of the firmware upgrade I think version 7.05 will no longer work. It would not work after I did the firmware upgrade and installed version 8. Without a manual or at least instructions regarding the firmware upgrade I don’t know for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kg6mti 0 Posted March 25, 2006 I assume at this point everyone who wants the user manual has found a copy. If not PM me and I can post a zip for the 8.0 user manual. That would be great. I still haven't got one. Here is a URL that you can get the manual from: http://home.comcast.net/~kg6mti/downloads/GeoUM_8.0.zip Enjoy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rene 0 Posted March 25, 2006 Thank you for the manual. Rene Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rene 0 Posted March 28, 2006 Is there anyone using or have attempted to use V8.0 besides Jasper? If so, what is your experience with V8.0. I am waiting for others to try it before I do and mess up a good working system! Rene Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumo 0 Posted March 29, 2006 I am using V8.0 on the GV-1480-16 here. It is working fine. I do noticed that the CPU usage is better than V7.05. The default setting for the video is very bright also. It do give a false color but I guess you can see more features of the object. I went and update the ATI driver to 6.3 but it seem that I am having problem with that driver. It couldn't install one of the file and now I am having problem with overlay . Just have no time to fix this problem yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rene 0 Posted March 29, 2006 Sumo, Thank you for the information. I decided after reading your post to convert to Version 8 last night and it went very smooth. Did the drivers first, as it does loads new firmware on the 1480 board, and then installed the new V8 software which updated my configuration. So far everything OK, will play with the new features later. Rene Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumo 0 Posted March 30, 2006 No problem. I like the H.264 compression. I did a quick test of compressions for a single camera running for 1 minute: MPEG4 - 374MB MPEG4(ASP) - 174MB H.264 - 134MB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper 0 Posted March 31, 2006 It saves space and is a good choice for low speed connections using webcam. I was disappointed with H.264 because my reference has always been with high quality, such as DVD. These higher compression codecs are just making an already low quality image much worse. It all depends on what is most important to you, quality or saving hard drive space. Since hard drive space is getting cheaper all the time I pick quality. Welcome to the forum by the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_indo 0 Posted March 31, 2006 Dear forum; I have just installed GV8.0 on my 1240-16 system, I have noticed it use up up to 96% of CPU resources when the webcam being accessed (Multicam at highest resolution 720x576 interlaced), and around 40% with webcam off Is it normal ? the system is running on a P4 3.0GHz HT RAM 510MB on intel 915 chipset board. Please advise Thanks Ben_Indo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bassman99 0 Posted March 31, 2006 I have a GV1240 with webcam accessed throughout the day/night. CPU is around 30-40%. This is viewing single camera webcam view 720x576 H.264 I am also using a 3.0ghz P4 with HT but have 1GB RAM. The webcam server does use RAM to support its remote connections so you could try adding another 512MBRAM to see? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattVidionics 0 Posted April 14, 2006 Version 8 will only work with certain cards ( http://www.geovision.com.tw/upload/en/software_download_upgrade.pdf ) Did anyone find that they could not use the new version? I am looking at buying a DVR card, but they say it cannot use version 8, so maybe they are selling me an old card? Matt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites