eliko2000 0 Posted October 9, 2015 Hello, My name is Eli and I am new in this forum. In the last few weeks I am searching for a security camera system with several attributes. The attributes I want are 1. Option to choose Wireless or Wired camera 2. Outdoor camera 3. Cloud storage and PC Storage 4. Night Vision 5. Motion detection Recording 6. On demand streaming 7. Bonus - IP Camera Now, I know it's a lot of demands, but still are there any products that can answer my needs? P.S If there is not Wireless and Wired camera so only wireless will do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zr1 0 Posted October 9, 2015 1) Wired Wireless is easy, but it's not a setup-and-forget for a device that needs to be operational 24/7. For my customers, I do wired systems. Sure, the little wifi cams are kinda fun, but they just aren't a 24/7 tool and they will disconnect at some point (right before the time you need them) 2) Outdoor IP66 rating, etc. Still...some of the cheaper brands advertise outdoor/IP66...but they still don't do so well outdoors. The Hikvisions/Dahuas mentioned on this board a lot do great in the outdoors. 3) Cloud Storage vs Local Storage It's a lot of data. Depending on the number of cams and resolution, you could be looking at 2TB or more a month. My mid-tier residential home ISP allows me 1/8th of that...unless I pay them more money for monthly service. Almost every one of my customers choose local storage. If they want to backup (because we've all seen Terminator 2, right? ), they choose a 2nd drive on the local network to copy to backup (NAS drive, 2nd drive in NVR, etc.) 4) Night vision Cams typically go to infrared (IR) to see at night better. They'll state that they're good for [insert distance] of range. In practice, I tend to find that if I cut that number in half, it's more of what's effective in the real world. It's not all about IR though, some cameras simply do better in the dark. The new Hik 4MP cams do much better than the 3MP cams. 5) Motion Much better today than ever before. It's still not an intelligent device, but the motion detection works real well. For recording, most of my customers go with recording on motion only (recording "activity"). This saves hard drive space (a ton), and also it's way easier to find some recording of an event than combing through a 24/7 recording. Some government clients and casinos like 24/7 recording though. 6) On demand streaming Even the cheapest (and crap-product) systems out there do remote access. From another computer or smartphone device, they all pretty much do that now. 7) IP Camera If starting a ground-up system, I simply go IP these days. If somebody has an existing analog system, then the TVI (or CVI, SDI, AHD, etc.) can be an option to save on cabling costs to reuse their existing cable. Also, TVI (and some of the others) are good at 1000' cable runs. But a new system? IP...definitely! As for analog systems, I only repair/band-aid existing systems, but it's simply a crappy image. It's the same type of image quality we've had since the 1930's. D1 = crappy image 960H = crappy widescreen image Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eliko2000 0 Posted October 9, 2015 Hello zr1, thanks for the detailed info. I indded building a new system but I want some of my cameras to be wired and some wireless. That's why iam searching for wireless and wired camera Moreover, I intend to record only when motion detected so it wont be 24\7. (Anyway I have 6TB Hard drive in my PC) I prefer my recordings on a cloud. So is there a camera model that answers all these needs? 1) WiredWireless is easy, but it's not a setup-and-forget for a device that needs to be operational 24/7. For my customers, I do wired systems. Sure, the little wifi cams are kinda fun, but they just aren't a 24/7 tool and they will disconnect at some point (right before the time you need them) 2) Outdoor IP66 rating, etc. Still...some of the cheaper brands advertise outdoor/IP66...but they still don't do so well outdoors. The Hikvisions/Dahuas mentioned on this board a lot do great in the outdoors. 3) Cloud Storage vs Local Storage It's a lot of data. Depending on the number of cams and resolution, you could be looking at 2TB or more a month. My mid-tier residential home ISP allows me 1/8th of that...unless I pay them more money for monthly service. Almost every one of my customers choose local storage. If they want to backup (because we've all seen Terminator 2, right? ), they choose a 2nd drive on the local network to copy to backup (NAS drive, 2nd drive in NVR, etc.) 4) Night vision Cams typically go to infrared (IR) to see at night better. They'll state that they're good for [insert distance] of range. In practice, I tend to find that if I cut that number in half, it's more of what's effective in the real world. It's not all about IR though, some cameras simply do better in the dark. The new Hik 4MP cams do much better than the 3MP cams. 5) Motion Much better today than ever before. It's still not an intelligent device, but the motion detection works real well. For recording, most of my customers go with recording on motion only (recording "activity"). This saves hard drive space (a ton), and also it's way easier to find some recording of an event than combing through a 24/7 recording. Some government clients and casinos like 24/7 recording though. 6) On demand streaming Even the cheapest (and crap-product) systems out there do remote access. From another computer or smartphone device, they all pretty much do that now. 7) IP Camera If starting a ground-up system, I simply go IP these days. If somebody has an existing analog system, then the TVI (or CVI, SDI, AHD, etc.) can be an option to save on cabling costs to reuse their existing cable. Also, TVI (and some of the others) are good at 1000' cable runs. But a new system? IP...definitely! As for analog systems, I only repair/band-aid existing systems, but it's simply a crappy image. It's the same type of image quality we've had since the 1930's. D1 = crappy image 960H = crappy widescreen image Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eliko2000 0 Posted October 11, 2015 I hope i am not breaking the forum rules for posting again. But can someone help me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boogieman 1 Posted October 11, 2015 I hope i am not breaking the forum rules for posting again. But can someone help me? You question has been answered. You need to do some legwork yourself. There are tons of threads on cameras that will meet your needs..see hikvision and dahua. You will have to setup cloud storage on your own. Cloud storage is a waste for most. With IP cameras you can hide a cheap NVR somewhere in your house and even record 24/7 to it as a backup, or get cams with sd card slots as a backup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
