CCTV Upgrade: Is IP camera as reliable as BNC connected cam

[dexterash 0]

Well, that rant went off the records... off the chart ... and off the peaks!

 

If someone follows the same rules on IP as with standard analogic, there shouldn't be more problems. When people are mixing IP Cameras with other devices on the same network, without proper segmentation/ isolation/ firewalling, there could be problems. The same goes if cheap switches are used, low-quality power sources, bad design, low-quality installers (no harm intended) & etc.

 

Failure-wise speaking, of course there are more [theoretical] failure points in IP devices, but I've never seen an IP device go "boom" by itself (nor an analogic one, of course). We've got either manufacturing problems (well, both on analogic and IP), or "user/external" interference.

 

Yes, the stack overflow or memory leak can be a problem. But if it's a design problem, could and should be fixed via update(s). Of course, there could be a 0.000001 % case that can't be traced. But the same could happen with a DSP on an analogic camera and start to perform weird in 0.000001 % freaky light.

 

Yes, temperature can be a problem - but same goes for analogic too.

 

In both cases, should someone powerup an IP Camera and an analogic one and leave them like this for (mhm) years, they shouldn't have any problem. It might have a problem if the filesystem becomes corrupt due to a freaky power on/power off/power on etc thingy, but the same can happen to an analogic camera too.

But real problems might come up when starting to connect/interconnect. But there are different types of problems that have their own fixes, since each technology is more or less prone to different errors than the other.

 

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BUT! IP conflicts are stupid kiddos problems. That's why LAN networks need to be designed in a way to prevent that. Same goes for DDoS (which, of course, can be a real threat if you put the camera on the same VLAN as the PC you use for watching 4k porn , for example).

 

Firmware in IPCameras might need upgrade (of course, here we should mind compatibility across vendors), but so might the analogic DVR. And since you can't use the analogic without a digital device that has a firmware or software running on it... we can say the analogic might require upgrades too. Oh, btw, CVI cameras can be firmware-upgraded.

And we can go on for ages about this.

 

Nothing is perfect nor fool proof. And I think every case or every install has and should have it's own, personalised solution. [for example, why put 4K cameras when all you need is a 1fps, low-resolution recording of an entry?]

[tomcctv 190]

It's the home run IP systems that are the worst to let you down.

 

Boogieman.... Why do you always have to get personal when you argue.

[dexterash 0]

In the connected world we live in, if an isolated IP home system fails, I think there are or could be bigger problems. Securing or making a small system functional is not a greater deal than setting up a NAS or SmartTV or other smart devices.

 

If that fails, the first thing I would be concerned is the misconfiguration (that can lead to serious data leak/loss/forever gone and privacy problems) of my home network.

 

Well, we might even say that an IP System that works flawlessly increases the chances that our network is well configured and our data/privacy is somehow ok.

[Daryl733 0]

As Reliable ?

Means Equally reliable. Not even a 0.0000001% differences ?

When configured by the same person ?

Taking same brand/equivalent range of equipment in comparison ?

Edited April 28, 2016 by Guest

[thewireguys 3]

 

You need to stop bragging about how many you install. I learned long ago that volume does not imply skill or quality. Like I said, many installing are installing 700tvl cameras, more than you, doesnt mean they are doing it properly. You obviously are comparing a homerun system to a multi node system. How dumb is that. Based on your comments I would not trust you to install a doorbell. If YOUR ip solutions are so unreliable then you need to look at yourself not blame the technology.

 

Spoken like a true professional Boogieman you make me laugh. " title="Applause" />

[dexterash 0]

As Reliable ?

Means Equally reliable. Not even a 0.0000001% differences ?

When configured by the same person ?

Taking same brand/equivalent range of equipment in comparison ?

Actually the Plug'n'Pray function on some NVRs with PoE might make the install simpler than analog cabling. If not interconnected or linked to something else. Reliability, as I said before, it's almost the same.

 

The fun begins when the interconnection with other systems starts. No doubt about that!

[Daryl733 0]

As what I said.

Almost the same is not the same as exactly the same.

[dexterash 0]

Do note I never said IP is not reliable, nor advice against using IP cameras based system.

I just disagree with the view that they are equality reliable.

Or... Maybe IP systems require a little more attention than analog ones.

 

You know, honestly, the whole world runs on IP and we've got billions of interconnected embedded systems... Yet, the Internet doesn't need a reboot every 12 hours

[dexterash 0]

As what I said.

Almost the same is not the same as exactly the same.

Nor is the situation white or black only. We've got a bunch of "grey" between...

[Daryl733 0]

Differences of opinions exist.

Doesn't mean you or I am absolutely right.

 

Just stating our opinions. Right ?

[dexterash 0]

Grey!

[Boogieman 1]

 

You need to stop bragging about how many you install. I learned long ago that volume does not imply skill or quality. Like I said, many installing are installing 700tvl cameras, more than you, doesnt mean they are doing it properly. You obviously are comparing a homerun system to a multi node system. How dumb is that. Based on your comments I would not trust you to install a doorbell. If YOUR ip solutions are so unreliable then you need to look at yourself not blame the technology.

 

Spoken like a true professional Boogieman you make me laugh. " title="Applause" />

Likewise. Dont know, I dont have these issues that you seem to be having. Again, this is a simple install. Not a multi node multi server install. Its plug and play. Simple, basic, easy. Stop over complicating it. I think its hilarious how installers here try to make it seem like rocket science in the hopes to dissuade folks from doing the jobs themselves. dexterash is spot on.