SCTECH 0 Posted May 16, 2006 I apologize if this is the wrong forum but I want to consider both PC and standalone DVRs... My requirements/preferences: RELIABLE Available in 4, 8/9, 16 channel models Would prefer standalone/embedded unit Minimum recording frame rate 7/sec/ch POS integration (at least text insertion, search function would be nice) Remote multisite software / central mangement system (at least 45 locations) I am currently considering March Networks, Webgates, IC Realtime (w/text inserter). I want to make sure that I am bringing a good variety of quality options to recommend to my client. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
securitymonster 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Check out video insight for PC based solutions. I haven't used thier overlay hardware but was browsing thru their info the other day and noticed they have a Cash Register Overlay Program and also multiple interface cables for different registers. Thomas will be able to answer more on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmason 0 Posted May 16, 2006 March Networks is going to be your best bet. I've alraedy read people in this forum beat up the other DVRS. You need an embedded sytem for a retail environment. We handle several brands of dvr and they all have their place. If you want happy retail clients take my advice. We handle everything from retail, C-stores, Hospitals, to schools. I've not seen everything, but I have seen a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCTECH 0 Posted May 19, 2006 Thanks for the input, any other suggestions? Also I am trying to find good statistical information with regards to cctv and loss prevention in a retail environment to present to my client...Emphasizing the importance of cctv from an unbiased, objective point-of-view. I already have the 2004 national retail security survey but I am hungry for more... any ideas where i can find it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
securitymonster 0 Posted May 19, 2006 You could always go steal something and return it to them at the time you present your quote! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCTECH 0 Posted May 23, 2006 AHH...The path to success that i've been searching for, its so simple. Is that your angle Monster? You create the need THEN provide the solution, brilliant! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted May 25, 2006 Also check out the GE Dvrs, embedded RTOS, they've been around for years and are solid work horses. See the GE (Kalatel) Gallery here for the Remote Software features. http://www.bahamassecurity.com/Gallery/Systems/Kalatel.htm http://www.bahamassecurity.com/get_datasheet.asp?id=901 http://www.bahamassecurity.com/get_datasheet.asp?id=902 Seriously though you need to see what kind of budget they have for the DVR alone, that would help as there are cheap DVRs, Mid Range, and High end .. low price to high price, less features to feature rich, less stable, to very stable. There's alot of choices. Here is another decent retail 4 channel DVR (i know not as many channels as you want but just an example). Less expensive than the GE but still loaded with features, not quite a GE but still nice for the price. http://www.bahamassecurity.com/get_datasheet.asp?id=408 Then here is the ultimate budget DVR .. very few features .. http://www.bahamassecurity.com/get_datasheet.asp?id=412 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JMANOFNVS 0 Posted May 27, 2006 Heck those aren't budget!!! This is budget http://www.supercircuits.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=5432 Seriously though GE, Arm DRX and DM are the ones I sell for POS or just add an VSIPRO to any dvr but I have heard alot of bad things about March Networks although they look nice but I havent had the opertunity to work with them for some odd reason.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted May 27, 2006 thats not even a DVR though thats a toy .. even cheaper would be the USB cable but yeah the last one i posted is around the same price without lan .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JMANOFNVS 0 Posted May 27, 2006 Since you are the Authority I will obey..this time...NOT!!! Hey thats the cheapest thing I have ever seen beside Lorex or Swanson and you mentioned ulimate budget and POS??!!??!! In my book POS means 2 things Point of Sale and Piece of S_ _ T. Fill in the blanks as you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted May 27, 2006 Yeah but thats not a stand alone DVR .. just a USB Quad .. you can get an actual stand alone DVR with HDD etc, from Eclipse for cheaper than that .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JMANOFNVS 0 Posted May 27, 2006 Ooops wrong link...its been along day, here you go http://www.supercircuits.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=3771 You get the idea though, here is a couple more http://www.avermedia-usa.com/2005home/product/dvr/standalone/standalone.shtml http://www.dvr.com/digital_video_recorder_embedded_stand-alone_dvr_30.htm http://www.scdlink.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=2220 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted May 27, 2006 Sure, but the one i posted is still cheaper .. LOL Plus the Lorex and those others arent even worth looking at, the ones i mentioned are. The AvTech is the cheapest one Id even come close to suggesting for CCTV ... (btw.. im sure the links with pricing may get deleted per the rules ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JMANOFNVS 0 Posted May 27, 2006 Well any moron who knows google can find them and many more its not to hard and Eclipse is really that inexpensive?? Whats the AVtech?? The cheapest DVR I have evr sold is this one http://www.armelectronics.com/specs/EZDVR480G.pdf which you have a price on but i tell people straight up you get what you pay for and believe it or not its got a one year free replacment warranty which starts over with each unit you get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted May 27, 2006 AvTech is probably the most popular Budget CCTV DVR in the world .. everyone sells them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted May 27, 2006 These are the actual manufacturers, Arm is an OEM reseller like Eclipse. AvTech http://www.avtech.com.tw/english/product_13.htm The other big seller is Yoko-tech http://www.yoko-tech.com/product_3.php?parent_id=40&par anyway .. i dont think theyll work for the poster .. no Point of sale . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cctv_down_under 0 Posted May 28, 2006 The only TRUE POS integration I have seen is in the March Networks, it works different to all others because it works through software not a ****y 232 printer interface, if u use the 232 capture box you can only search what is on the printed docket, and half that time that is not all you want o search...the march networks POS Investigator suite is software based and allows you to search for more than what is on the docket, PLU codes, operater sign ons, multiple operators lots more, the best I have seen by a mile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites