ak357 0 Posted September 1, 2016 What if I add IP cameras to the network? What kind of bandwidth do they draw? let say a average 2-4 Mbps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Anonymous 0 Posted September 1, 2016 Again it would not be a problem .... Cameras will be on own local network You missed the part about my heavy local usage, that is the problem with this. I run a file server within my home I stream files from to other computers in my home. 2-4Mbps helps for an estimate....or is it mbps? This was also a thought if I did not want to run new cables to use IP cameras they have wireless IP cameras. However I already use 100% of my 802.11 N/AC when streaming files from my NAS to laptop (intermittently) so I was wondering if I could dedicate a router for cameras then feed it into my hardwired lan. This would avoid any camera traffic going through the router I use for my phone and laptop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak357 0 Posted September 1, 2016 Ok another idea for you Put second gigabit NIC card Connect with separate cam network switch All your traffic isolated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted September 1, 2016 Again it would not be a problem .... Cameras will be on own local network You missed the part about my heavy local usage, that is the problem with this. I run a file server within my home I stream files from to other computers in my home. 2-4Mbps helps for an estimate....or is it mbps? This was also a thought if I did not want to run new cables to use IP cameras they have wireless IP cameras. However I already use 100% of my 802.11 N/AC when streaming files from my NAS to laptop (intermittently) so I was wondering if I could dedicate a router for cameras then feed it into my hardwired lan. This would avoid any camera traffic going through the router I use for my phone and laptop. Cvi tvi IP ... They are all good I like cvi better than tvi as everything is done at camera like IP. But you are right keep everything on its own cables (coax) IP on cat5 or 6 all back to a switch You said in another post you have 1000m runs that's a problem for IP you will need extenders to go that far Cvi or tvi will have no problems and even have 4 cameras down one coax Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Anonymous 0 Posted September 1, 2016 I am REALLY liking the idea of using a secondary NIC and wireless router to isolate my CCTV! This way I can go wireless and use the existing coax as power lines. My long 1000ft run is the total of several channels, I may be able to get away without any extenders because I will be able to locate the CCTV router closer to the cameras. 4 cameras down a single coax? How does this work? CVI has in-cam encoding? I thought it stands for composite video interface? Therefor outputting an analog composite stream to a BNC DVI? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted September 1, 2016 I am REALLY liking the idea of using a secondary NIC and wireless router to isolate my CCTV! This way I can go wireless and use the existing coax as power lines. My long 1000ft run is the total of several channels, I may be able to get away without any extenders because I will be able to locate the CCTV router closer to the cameras. 4 cameras down a single coax? How does this work? CVI has in-cam encoding? I thought it stands for composite video interface? Therefor outputting an analog composite stream to a BNC DVI? Cvi is realtime digital over coax and is also both ways .... One coax will take video audio and PTZ control and all camera function Tvi can't do that 4 down one cable ... Daisy chain with BNC Ts then run all 4 down one cable upto 1500m. ( can do 8 but not needed to do that yet) I am REALLY liking the idea of using a secondary NIC and wireless router to isolate my CCTV! This way I can go wireless and use the existing coax as power lines. Good surgestion from ak347. Till you mentioned wireless. Bad idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Anonymous 0 Posted September 2, 2016 Luckily I already have RG6 to all locations so sending multiple streams down a single cable will not be a needed requirement. From some comparisons I think I will definitely stay with TVI for image clarity. I will order an HD-TVI DVR and use that for a while, I can add IP cameras to that if need be as well. Why is wireless a bad idea?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted September 2, 2016 Luckily I already have RG6 to all locations so sending multiple streams down a single cable will not be a needed requirement. From some comparisons I think I will definitely stay with TVI for image clarity. I will order an HD-TVI DVR and use that for a while, I can add IP cameras to that if need be as well. Why is wireless a bad idea?? Image clarity is the same cvi or tvi... Both are 2mp .... Also cvi recorders also take tvi and IP and cheaper than tvi If going tvi then wait a month or so as new tvi3 is out ..... And you can't use old tvi on new tvi3 recorders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak357 0 Posted September 2, 2016 Luckily I already have RG6 to all locations so sending multiple streams down a single cable will not be a needed requirement. From some comparisons I think I will definitely stay with TVI for image clarity. I will order an HD-TVI DVR and use that for a while, I can add IP cameras to that if need be as well. Why is wireless a bad idea?? Here is what you do HD TVI ----> to Sw----> to second NIC or directly to a second NIC got it ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Anonymous 0 Posted September 2, 2016 I saw a really good video and between CVI and TVI I kind of liked the TVI: There is a recorder on eBay that claims 5mp: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1080P-2MP-HD-TVI-DVR-8Ch-Tribrid-support-Analog-1080P-TVI-IP-Camera-Up-to-5MP-/151900370093?hash=item235df7b4ad:g:4fEAAOSwH71XPe~6 TVI3!? I will start that research now, great advice. Here is what you do HD TVI ----> to Sw----> to second NIC or directly to a second NIC got it ? HD TVI --(RG6)---> DVR ---> Second NIC I do not really need a secondary NIC in this case in the server, only if I was pulling 8 individual IP cameras raw was my thought. Once I am streaming all the channels compressed from the DVR I see no need for the second NIC. My thought on the second NIC was this, with 8 IP cams all wireless: LAPTOPS/PHONES --(802.11N/AC)---> ROUTER #1 --(CAT6)---> SERVER NIC #1 - Load from streaming files ALL WIFI CAMS --(802.11N/AC)---> ROUTER #2 --(CAT6)---> SERVER NIC #2 - Load from cameras only Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak357 0 Posted September 2, 2016 My thought on the second NIC was this, with 8 IP cams all wireless: LAPTOPS/PHONES --(802.11N/AC)---> ROUTER #1 --(CAT6)---> SERVER NIC #1 - Load from streaming files ALL WIFI CAMS --(802.11N/AC)---> ROUTER #2 --(CAT6)---> SERVER NIC #2 - Load from cameras only Connect DVR to Router#2 then All your traffic from security equipment will be isolated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Anonymous 0 Posted September 2, 2016 Yes I would do the same on the opposite side and feed my hardwired PCs into router #1. This makes a lot of sense If I paid for a copy of BlueIris, or something similar, I could skip the entire cost of a DVR...and start investing in wireless IP cameras. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites