jeffpa 0 Posted July 2, 2006 Been studying what I can on these, but its abit daunting. I need a DVR, networkable to my pc for viewing(and to pc for storage/archive)),local (monitor view), motion detection,hi res storage (720x480), 4ch, 30fps per channel, and some sort of remote alarm for motion detection. etc. My dealer suggested the Everfocus EDSR400, which I see while not generally well viewed, the complaints are from very advanced folks... I've pretty much settled on SHC-740,or SDC-415 camera's for input to this DVR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CCTVcams 0 Posted July 5, 2006 hey jeffpa, not personally familiar with this model, but you may find some additional information here: http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=5423&highlight=everfocus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VST_Man 1 Posted July 5, 2006 very cheap................but works. viewing via internet will be slow refresh. for that same money or cheaper you can get a eclipse type DVR that will outperform. I'm not a big fan of cheap equipment but when money is a issue cheap stuff works ok, but, long term lifecycle is always going to be questionable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted July 5, 2006 If you want archiving to your PC, you will need a DVR that supports that, which I cant think of any stand alones that do it well, even my beloved GE .. GeoVision for certain has the software specially for that, called Center V2. Other PC based DVRs do also. If you want highest quality evidence sharing you are stuck with a PC based in any event. Though make sure it is a good brand as some cheaper ones only handle lower resolutions. Ultimately, the neverfocus model definately wouldnt be the right choice for your requirements. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSG 0 Posted July 6, 2006 Dedicated Micros has archiving via FTP for their new DS2 and I believe the ECO line as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted July 6, 2006 Dedicated Micros has archiving via FTP for their new DS2 and I believe the ECO line as well. Whats the Resolution and Frame Rate though? I should have said yes alot to send to an ftp server on motion, just never seen that work well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffpa 0 Posted July 6, 2006 If you want archiving to your PC, you will need a DVR that supports that, which I cant think of any stand alones that do it well, even my beloved GE .. GeoVision for certain has the software specially for that, called Center V2. Other PC based DVRs do also. If you want highest quality evidence sharing you are stuck with a PC based in any event. Though make sure it is a good brand as some cheaper ones only handle lower resolutions. Ultimately, the neverfocus model definately wouldnt be the right choice for your requirements. Not archiving per se, but at least be able to store clips on my PC for safe keeping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crirvine 0 Posted July 7, 2006 Rory not to mention the possibilty of 120 frames per sec 30fps x 4. If it is over the internet that is going to tax bandwith out of the water or if it is over a LAN it could be an IT's nightmare. Just did not see anybody bring this up in this post. I have seen 7fps x 16 channels eat up a cable broadband connection. Not all people need 30fps most time 6-8 work great. If you look at 30fps @ 4k files thats 120k per camera times the possibilty of 4 cameras thats 480k most broadband connections are 256k. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cctv_down_under 0 Posted July 7, 2006 If you do not need to record at that frame rate then either the Sprite DM or the GE box's would do fine, but if that frame work is needed the Bosch DVR4C will do real tiem recording. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted July 7, 2006 the GE's do real time recording also .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffpa 0 Posted July 8, 2006 (real time recording) I thought thats what a DVR does? Am I missing something? All I need to do is save at probably 30fps x 3 camera's to a DVR, and have the ability to view something remotely on the DVR if needed (camera feed) or store a clip to my PC for archiving if need be. Otherwise, its save the data to HD, and I'll have a monitor setup to view one camera, and view the other two camera's (local or remote via my PC on same home LAN) only when needed. Motion detect will be enabled on the 1 camera and will ring a piezo electric unit when activated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crirvine 0 Posted July 8, 2006 Jeff I understand you are hung up on 30fps very few ever need that a time laps recorder running in 24 hour mode is around 6-8fps. Not seeing the install I can't see the need to shorten the storage time of the dvr. Now to answer your question on live recording. Not all dvr's are the same and you need to read the specs some 4 channel do 30fps record and 30fps veiw at the same time while others do 120fps record and 120fps view and then there are the ones that can only work like a vcr record or view not both at the same time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrCCTV 0 Posted July 12, 2006 Hey I'm giving odds on how long that piezo stays connected Any takers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffpa 0 Posted August 11, 2006 We got rid of the everfocus, what a POS. Motion Sense only worked when you were damned near in front of the camera. I will say those SDC-415 cams on low lux ROCK! But dont work well for LPR, so I have an Extreme CCTV REG-L1 on order. (thx for the reccomend Rory!) I'm trying to stick in the under 2k range for a DVR though, 8 channel, 30ips per channel, motion detection (and good motion detection!), alarm out, record resolution at least 720x240. My Dealer suggested Speci DVR-9ip) and I see Rory poo-poo'd them. Dedicated micro's seem well received, but they are kind out of my price range, (Sprite 2). Any other suggestions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites