McJannet 0 Posted August 2, 2006 Client has an application where he desires to be able to identify sex, hair color, clothing color and clothing type in order to advise security personnel who they are looking for inside a large compound. At 1,000 metre distance. (Perimeter surviellance) Which is about a 2,000 mm lens on a 1/3 inch camera. Any suggestions, megapixel cameras with a smaller lens perhaps? Regards: Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak357 0 Posted August 2, 2006 I did it once using Telescope and color board camera ask mechanical shop to make adapter remove first lens on telescope and remove board lens from camera then it's easy to figure out hope its helps good luck I was able to read license plate abot 700m away Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McJannet 0 Posted August 2, 2006 Thanks for the telescope idea, but it has to be mounted on a pole with PTZ in a petrochemical facility near the ocean. Talked to the rep, who pointed to Fujinon and am now interested in this lens, which is 40 - 2200 when fitted with 2x converter. http://www.fujinoncctv.com/pdfs/cctv0904/C55x20D-ENSE11.pdf Anyone ever use these, I'm interested in camera suggestion (must be day/night) for example a 1/2" Ikegami ICD-848P? Regards: Dave[/img] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted August 2, 2006 Looks good, what about night time though? Remember it gets darker as you zoom in telephoto. Are you going to use some form of long range Infrared? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted August 2, 2006 check out the Pano WV-CL924A. or these from extreme .. http://www.extremecctv.com/product_detail.php?producttype_id=8&page=1&product_id=92 http://www.extremecctv.com/product_detail.php?producttype_id=8&page=2&product_id=101 http://www.extremecctv.com/product_detail.php?producttype_id=8&page=3&product_id=82 http://www.extremecctv.com/product_detail.php?producttype_id=&page=1&product_id=151 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kensplace 0 Posted August 2, 2006 You would need a very good pan tilt to move around a 20 Kilogram lens, plus the weight of the hardware needed to secure the camera to the lens so it doesnt just snap the camera in half, plus any lighting, control etc. In addition to supporting the weight (which could easily exceed 25 kilo) it would need to be very, very smooth moving, as the *slightest* angle of movement on the pan tilt head would equal HUGE movement at the end of the zoom. The longer the zoom, the harder to control it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted August 2, 2006 You would need a very good pan tilt to move around a 20 Kilogram lens, plus the weight of the hardware needed to secure the camera to the lens so it doesnt just snap the camera in half, plus any lighting, control etc. In addition to supporting the weight (which could easily exceed 25 kilo) it would need to be very, very smooth moving, as the *slightest* angle of movement on the pan tilt head would equal HUGE movement at the end of the zoom. The longer the zoom, the harder to control it is. I just hope the client is paying at least $150K for this cool camera Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WirelessEye 0 Posted August 2, 2006 You can try to use this guy: http://www.toshiba.com/taisisd/security/products/prod_camera_detail_ik1000.jsp With this lens: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&Q=&is=REG&O=productlist&sku=404292 You'd be looking at quite a bit of money, but oh what a combination... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted August 2, 2006 You can try to use this guy: http://www.toshiba.com/taisisd/security/products/prod_camera_detail_ik1000.jsp With this lens: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&Q=&is=REG&O=productlist&sku=404292 You'd be looking at quite a bit of money, but oh what a combination... low res cam though ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WirelessEye 0 Posted August 3, 2006 The resoltion is the tradeoff for 0.00025 lux, and the reason it's only 8 grand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted August 3, 2006 i really doubt its that lux level, as that doesnt exist. Thats one of those budget specs ... Now if they want to back it up, then they need to post some images and video ... cause noones gonna spend $8K on their word ... Toshiba's not exactly the pro in the cctv name Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WirelessEye 0 Posted August 3, 2006 i really doubt its that lux level, as that doesnt exist. Thats one of those budget specs ... Now if they want to back it up, then they need to post some images and video ... cause noones gonna spend $8K on their word ... Toshiba's not exactly the pro in the cctv name Ask and you shall recieve: http://gpmarketingcanada.com/toshiba/IK1000_Motion_Demo.wmv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted August 3, 2006 interesting indeed ... send me one , ill pay yah later colors a lil weird but still impressive ... Ive seen the starlight camera under a couple smaller name brands over the last couple years (never with a demo though), wonder if this is the same camera? Toshiba finally got a decent camera in their line (dont worry i know they got some machine vision ones also ) Still think he needs to charge $150K for the camera he is "building" to view people's faces at 2000 metres Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WirelessEye 0 Posted August 3, 2006 Indeed. That's military-like capability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites