Network Tester - False Reading???

[YeeWin 0]

Hello all,

 

I mentioned in the welcome section that I recently purchased an Amcrest security system for my mother's house. I just opened up the NVR, one of the cameras, the crimping kit and about 3' of the Cat6 spool I got. The kit come with an interesting crimper that I can only assume works as designed, a bag of zip ties, 100 connectors and a very cheap looking network cable tester. I decide to try my hand at crimping on the connectors to the the cable after carefully stripping the outer layer and using scissors to peel back the inner layer exposing the 4 twisted pairs. Straightened them out by hand, trimmed them back to about 3/4" and shoved them into the connector, making sure they seat all the way in and did the same to the other end, also making sure the cables match color wise. The tester gave me the green lights. I felt accomplished. And then immediate mistrust as I plugged the camera into the NVR that I installed the hard drive into. The IR lights come on when I cover the camera, however, I got nothing on the screen. No IP when searching for device, nothing on the app they have. I made a second cable, exactly the same way, same tools and parts. And this time, it functions.

 

For those who don't like reading my stories, my question is this: What would cause the camera to receive power but not transmit data? I do notice that this direct burial Cat6 is a lot more rigid than what I'm used to. Would that create problems in transmission if the connectors I'm using can't pierce the wires properly? Is that a thing? Anything helps.

 

Thanks,

YeeWin

[jeromephone 6]

you could have the power wires terminated properely and the other paris mismatched. Your cable tester should show all 4 pairs connected directly to each other brown to brown etc. if not reterminate and try again.

[YeeWin 0]

I've been re-terminating persistently with little to no luck. Could I be crimping to hard? Not hard enough? Do i need to buy better connectors? The network testers just has 9 lights on it (1 thru 8 and G which I'm assuming means ground?) and when I plug both ends into the tester, I gets light moving down 1 thru 8. simultaneously.

[Securame 0]

In what order did you put the color cables?

 

[YeeWin 0]

Neither. I went BR,BR/W,G,G/W,B,B/W,O,O/W on both ends. I was under the impression that all the cables were the same, regardless of color. So I just kept the color pairs together and made the other end match. Am I incorrect for thinking this?

[Securame 0]

You are incorrect, that's why it does not work. The pairs have to be 1-2 3-6 4-5 7-8, and you are pairing 3-4 and 5-6.

 

Stick to the standards, and use always the same color coding (I always do T568B).

[the toss 0]

I made the same mistake on my first ethernet cable as well. Being an old analogue man I mistakenly thought that as long as each end of each cable was terminated in the same position then all would be well. Point to point - how simple can it be. WRONG . That is ok for DC which is why your IR was working but its not ok for the signal wires. Its a complex topic which I dont fully understand. To do with slew rates & velocity factors and other black magic stuff.

[YeeWin 0]

Wow. Good to know. I saw those standards online but ignored them because the Amcrest tech I spoke to said it did matter. I will give this a go once I get back from my work trips. Thanks for info.

[jeromephone 6]

b pattern is the most common. If you keep having problems with plugs try using a jack on your cable and connect your camera with a patch cord.

[YeeWin 0]

My apologies, but due to my inexperience, I'm not sure what you mean by jack/patch cord. Could you elaborate?

[YeeWin 0]

So I’m finally back home from my travels but only for a weekend. Just to verify: I should be using either the A or B standard color pattern. Do I need to make both ends match? Or mirror the pattern.

 

Also, I stumbled across the crossover pattern, would that be useful for my situation since I’m running straight from the camera to the nvr? Any thing helps. Thank you in advance!

[tomcctv 190]

So I’m finally back home from my travels but only for a weekend. Just to verify: I should be using either the A or B standard color pattern. Do I need to make both ends match? Or mirror the pattern.

 

Also, I stumbled across the crossover pattern, would that be useful for my situation since I’m running straight from the camera to the nvr? Any thing helps. Thank you in advance!

 

Hi. You should use B .... don’t bother with crossover cable they are a thing of the past. Just stick to the standard B on both ends and your good to go.

[YeeWin 0]

Thanks, Tom!! Will do.