kkmoon 16CH 1080P FHD Security Camera 5IN1 question

[corviarbob 0]

16CH 1080P FHD Security Camera System 5IN1 AHD DVR CCTV Digital Video Recorder question

 

does anyone know if this recorder system will work with analog cameras the ahd,cvi,tvi, and ip network cameras?

i have the zmodo 16 ch dvr the i have 8 analog cams on and i have 4 cams the i can switch to 4 different formats, but i have then now set to tvi.

i have an 8 ch nvr unit the i have 6 foscam r2 ip cams on.

on the nvr i can show both the ip network cams and also the zmodo cams, the analog and tvi cams and also record them on that nvr.

what i would like to do is have one unit that will show all the cameras i have, plus as i replace the old analog cams the new formats are becoming ahd cvi tiv and the new hd uhd fhd resolutions that the zmodo is not like very well.

so i have asked tons of ebay sellers and noe one have said yes or no plus i have sent kkmoon this same question 4 times and still waiting on the first reply. so i'm hoping someone here can tell me if this will work or what dvr/nvr unit will do the job. i hate to just start tossing money at systems until i happen to find one that works. i could get lucky the first time but!.  

so does anyone here know or may have this unit working like i need? in the future i will need to start replacing the analog type cams and because i have the wire up it will be an easy change and if i was to change them all to ip then i have to run power to them etc. so getting a system that will work with all my cameras is the best option. thanks much bp.

[tomcctv 190]

Hi looking at spec no

once you start adding IP cameras to the dvr the channel count goes down you would be better not looking at rebadged equipment 

[corviarbob 0]

thanks i guess i do not quite understand the rebadged equipment statement. is kkmoon not a good unit?  i do see on that seems to have the same specs called floureon so is that also a rebadged unit? and if they are rebadged what might the parent unit be? 

also i guess i do ot understand the adding cameras and the channel count goes down. seems if it is capable of showing 16 cameras it should be able to show anywhere from 1 to 16 cameras? unless your telling me if i ut 8 dvr cameras on this then it will not be able to get ip cameras added to the total camera count?  that puzzles me as i have a nvr the show 8 sections for cameras and i can put any amount up to 8 cameras on that unit in any combination of dvr and ip cams. so i was figuring this would do the same thing.

i just got a nvr card from an ebay seller that they said would get 32 channels but it will find all the dvr cameras and not one ip camera, it tells me to enter username and password for the cameras and i have tried everything to get that to happen and it comes back with the same statement. that board will not let me add ip cameras and it is an nvr board. unless anyone here happens to know how to make the new nvr board to be able to get past the username and password. i even reset one camera to factory and tried and nothing. the foscam will not let you use admin and anything else for a password you have to change it the first thing. so i tried another ip cam that has on the sticker admin and 123456 for a password and this board would not let me do that either. 

if i could find a way to reflash this to even16 cams i would give it a go. but it would be nice to reflash it for the 32 cams it is said it has in it.

 

thanks

[tomcctv 190]

1 hour ago, corviarbob said:

i just got a nvr card from an ebay seller that they said would get 32 channels

Nvr or dvr card is it for a pc ? Pci 

1 hour ago, corviarbob said:

seems if it is capable of showing 16 cameras it should be able to show anywhere from 1 to 16 cameras?

This is not the case with cheap systems 

look up kkmoon 16 ch 5 in 1  it gives you its limit on the spec 

16 analog 960h

12 HD analog at 2mp (can’t go higher)

add 4 IP cameras again only 12 channel and IP cameras can’t be above 1mp which is useless.... you can add 4 3mp ip but max cameras is only 4

it is all down to cost of hardware  .... better graphics better memory/storage/ network components ..... hikvision is also another one with there cheaper units very limited

your also right with floureon and kkmoon the only dahua lite units with a licence to alter software

[corviarbob 0]

ok thanks a lot for this info.  so do you think i could connect up 12 analog cameras of different formats most are analog older zmodo and 4 ahd tvi cvi type and 6 ip cams to one of these without to many issues? at this time i have the dvr with the 12 cams on it and the nvr with a combination of ip cams and some of the dvr cams on it. what i would like to do is use one unit to record and view all the cameras on and not have to switch back and forth to see them on one monitor. thanks bp

[tomcctv 190]

Your link first post is 5 in 1  kkmoon ahd

 

linking ahd at the end means it’s more geared for ahd

ahd tvi cvi sdi are all formats you could go 4 or 5mp ahd on the kkmoon but the rest if above 1.3-2mp cvi tvi might not run ... it’s being sold as a ahd unit

 

take a look at the tvi 4 in 1 dvr much better kit

[corviarbob 0]

ok thanks where did you see the 4 in 1 kit? send a link if you can. i have a nvr board that is said to be a 32 ch board and it show the dvr perfect but will not show the ip cameras all i get is wrong username and password. so i went to the mfg site and downloaded the firmware and the board would not install that firmware it said wrong firmware. so the seller did refund my money and now waiting on a return slip for it. but figured if the firmware would fix it i would just keep it and give the seller back the money. thanks if i can find that 4 in 1 i can try that.

[tomcctv 190]

What do you mean nvr board ?
how was it connected was it for a pc

[corviarbob 0]

this is a nvr board it did not have the case. it came with the hd cables and nothing else. it connects just like the nvrs that you see with cases. i plug it into the power add the hard drive plug in the network cable and the mouse and monitor and it came on asked me to change the first login username and password. then it found the hd and formatted it to work on that board.  then i went into the menu and told it to find the cameras on my system and it found the zmodo dvr and it found the nvr i have already. i could add each dvr camera by inputting the dvr ip address and the channel for each camera and they showed up on the monitor.

then it found the ip cameras and said wrong username and password, i entered the cameras username and password but it would not show them. on my current nvr it does the same thing and i entered the same info and it shows the cameras.  i even put a different ip camera on the network and my current nvr found it and let me add it to the system but this board did the same thing wrong username and password. and that cam uses andmin and 123456 for that info. so that board has some kind of firmware issues. i went to the website that makes them and got the firmware for this board and put it on a thumb drive and then put that stick into the board and powered as some website say to do for installing firmware into the nvr units and this board told me it was the wrong software and would not use it. 

on the website that firmware was for the exact number on the board they show as the one i have.  

 

this board numbers are nbd8032ra-ul-v2    and 3536cv 100 v1.02   0398205770   if you look that up  it should look like this one this is the one i have  but if i can find the 4 into 1 as suggested to work i can try it. but need more info to fine one. thanks

 

[corviarbob 0]

ok i found this unit on ebay  ZOSI 1080p FHD Surveillance DVR Recorder 8 Channel,Hybrid Capability 4-in-1(Analog/AHD/TVI/CVI) CCTV DVR Kits,Motion Detection,Remote Control,Email Alarm,No Hard Drive

so what do you think about this unit for doing what i would like one to do? thanks

link   https://www.ebay.com/itm/Zosi-1080P-Fhd-Surveillance-Dvr-Recorder-8-Channel-Hybrid-Capability-4-In-1-Anal/164689225770?hash=item26583e282a:g:C~kAAOSwzUpgHrgv 

[tomcctv 190]

Hi analog only no IP call up

your 32way nvr link .... how are you looking for your ip cameras

[corviarbob 0]

1 hour ago, tomcctv said:

Hi analog only no IP call up

your 32way nvr link .... how are you looking for your ip cameras

well one person said to look for a 4 into 1 and that was all i could find. i did not see it either but posted it because of the suggestion.

 

here is the link to the one i have that is not letting me get to the ip cameras

http://www.xiongmaitech.com/en/index.php/product/product-detail/4/110/409

 

on the 32 ch nvr board in the menu i can do a search for the cameras on my network. i have 2 other nvr systems and those both do it the same way as this system does.  it shows all the cameras on my network and the dvr cameras show as 1 camera and i just change the channels and i can get anyone i want to show up on this board. it also show all the ip cams but then when i click to add to the lower section they go with the fault bad username and password. i click on one of them and it opens a popup that has admin for default and blank password. i have entered every username and password and it fails to show. and i even took a camera that uses admin for un and the pw of 123456 and it still fails. i even changed one camera to the same username and password the nvr uses and nothing works.  

 

go check out the link as that is the exact board i have every number on my board matches this board in the link. thanks

[tomcctv 190]

Yes I had a look at it earlier..... just looking at the board I can see it has no chance of doing 32 4K ip cameras and only a $30 price tag

Equipment like that is just cheap rubbish network is on a China server. It’s using the myeye software. 
 

even the spec shows it only does 1 fps.... that is useless to anyone we are on 30 to 60fps

 

Q-see. Was the USA tvt outlet but unfortunately have stopped trading after 20 years

[corviarbob 0]

thanks i wonder why you say that, as the 8 ch nvr i have now works good and i get perfect resolution and playback on all the cameras that i have on it. and that is 20$ unit from china. and it is not connected to any outside servers as i have turned all of them off.  

i still have yet to find a 4 into 1 unit and the cctv camera world could not find a 4 into 1 either they said that is in the camera and not the recorder. so if you have alink to a 4 into 1 recorder feel free to send that along for me to check out. thanks bp

[tomcctv 190]

1 hour ago, corviarbob said:

cctv camera world could not find a 4 into 1 either they said that is in the camera and not the recorder

Well that’s another company that knows nothing ...... impossible for it to be in the camera and not recorder ....... you can also get 4 in 1 cameras ..... but you must have a comparable recorder ...... if you only have a cvi camera then it will only run on a cvi dvr same with other formats tvi ahd analog

most analog cameras now are all switchable formats so you also need a dvr you can also change formats or allow for mix of formats

 

1 hour ago, corviarbob said:

thanks i wonder why you say that, as the 8 ch nvr

It’s an 8channel ...... I was talking of the 32 4K nvr for $30  read the spec sheet if your happy with 1 fps use it

1 hour ago, corviarbob said:

it is not connected to any outside servers as i have turned all of them off.  

You can’t switch off a server...... if it’s connected to the internet it goes to a server

if using xmeye or myeye app then it’s over the server

just read the instructions 

mid you want to connect IP cameras you need to be running the cms to connect

[corviarbob 0]

ok thanks i guess i will have to leave it as it is. the dvr works on the original zmodo cameras and those 4 into 1 cams that i have set now on tvi. and both the zmodo 8 ch and the h.264 dvr can work with. it h.264 is a format i know but that is all the information i got with it. i typed the numbers in the seb and it came back h.264 dvr. so that is really a generic dvr for sure. it even came in a black and white box. about as generic as they get i guess. but i got that one maybe 15 years ago and shortly after that i got the zmodo with 8 cameras in a kit. i installed that zmodo kit and then that zmodo dvr failed so just for kicks i put the h.264 on the cameras and they played. over the years i added the 4 into 1 cameras one at a time until i had 12 cameras. then i got the ip cameras and started using the phone and tinycam app and then got the 20$ nvr and plugged it into the network and it found all the ip cams and even the zmodo dvr. what i'm trying to do is get a system that will see all the cameras on one unit so i don't have to be switching back and forth on the monitor to see how the cameras are doing and to check if they are recording now and them.

 

by the sound of it i might as well just leave it all alone and keep it the way it is.  i got that 32 cam nvr in hopes that this unit would work just like the 8 ch unit i'm using now, i can see any camera that is plugged into the dvr plus all the ip cameras. 

 

on the new 32 ch nvr board it will see the dvr just fine but it will not let me past the username and password for the ip cameras. if someone had a fix for that i woud just fine and start using that 32 ch board. i went to the company that makes it to see if they had any updated firmware and the firmware they have i downloaded to my laptop and then copied it to a thumb stick and then put it into the board and booted the board like some youtubes said to do for firmware updates but this board would not look at the usb first. there are no settings that i can find to re do the boot order. unless i have to use a particular usb port? i used the top one in back of the board not the bottom port on the back of the board. maybe i can try that and see if it will boot from the stick and do an update. it will not update form inside the program i tried that as well.

so thanks for the help bp

[corviarbob 0]

so what i'm trying to do if possible is reinstall the firmware. but when i go to the mfg site and download the firmware i get a bin file and i copied that directly to the usb thumb drive and then i put the stick into the nvr board and turn it on but it will not just run from the usb ports to re install that file. so i went into the setting and i have update  options but it will not run the stick so i guess i'm out of luck on this board. unless someone happens to have a way around that. i have 2 usb ports in the back none in the front. thanks

[tomcctv 190]

Golfing.com is a site you will find manuals and downloads but looks like you have to pay

you products link ... have you seen the frame rate using hd analog. 8fps  it’s just all cheap junk

two systems 1 monitor is it not better if you just got a monitor switch has to be better than spending more money and going backwards to 8fps