Audio recording

[Jim Chapman 0]

This is mainly aimed at commercial cctv. How does anyone justify having audio recording if the ICO suggests that it is not allowed except under exceptional circumstances? or do you just not worry about it?

[tomcctv 190]

Hi. For years this has been discussed many times 

but it is down to common sense

as cameras are a second pair of eyes for evidence collecting. audio is also as valuable 

take a small shop with 8 internal cameras there is no point collecting audio of all the shop…… people’s conversations are private… but the camera at checkout with audio is important……. Did cashier ask for ID when selling alcohol  or tobacco to underage

or in a takeaway…… racism to staff from bad customers ….. without audio they have nothing

in a industrial workplace audio should never be used on staff because there is no need

also in any environment audio should never go to the monitor it should only be available after burning off….. that way no one can listen to private conversation 

not only audio but ICO also have regulations on monitors that a lot of uk install companies ignore

monitors in public areas in stores and work spaces can not show any other cameras other than one camera at monitor location 

public can’t watch say 16 cameras in a store it’s a data protection and ICO law yet you see it all the time 

[tube tech 1]

check your local laws. in NM you can record a conversation if either party is aware of the recording, but if it is some random weirdo shouting at the world, you can't use it in court unless you shout something back at the random weirdo, turning a rant into a conversation.

where all of this started: back in the 1960s recording devices were so noisy, and test equipment was so noisy, that you could cut and splice an audio tape and alter the content with little chance of being discovered. now they can measure tiny abrupt changes in noise reliably, but vacuum tube era laws live on.

[tomcctv 190]

1 hour ago, tube tech said:

in NM you can record a conversation if either party is aware of the recording

Hi. This falls under wiretap laws and is not the same for cctv  ….. shops … gas stations… bars are classed as public space so can’t record voice