How Was My Non WiFi IP System Hacked?

[AnnkeDave72 0]

Hi All,

I know how this might come across. But please take what I say as truth. Unfortunately it's been my life for nigh on 12 years.

 

I have major problems with hackers. It also manifested into the real world. I bought an Annke H800 system with 3 bullet cameras. The NVR is model N48PAW. The cameras are model I91BL.

 

I'll admit I know very little about CCTV. I bought the system because it didn't have WiFi. The really basic system I had before was a basic analogue (?). Wired system. This system is digital with ethernet cables which I didn't realise at the time 

 

The hackers were able to hack it. Looped video feed, constant freezing play back, video playback 6 seconds slower than HDD time marker and on and on. This is probably a very naive question but how was it hacked if it didn't have WiFi and I didn't connect it to the internet by the ethernet cable?

 

Thank you in advance for any replies.

[tomcctv 190]

38 minutes ago, AnnkeDave72 said:

The hackers were able to hack it. Looped video feed, constant freezing play back, video playback 6 seconds slower than HDD time marker and on and on. This is probably a very naive question but how was it hacked if it didn't have WiFi and I didn't connect it to the internet by the ethernet cable?

Hi without your system being on internet it won’t of been hacked. 
your symptoms are also the same as a faulty hard drive…… in your case a lot of bad sectors….. this would be my first thing to sort out 

replace hard drive and also check time and date is constant

[AnnkeDave72 0]

Thank you for your reply.

I understand that without it being on the internet it can't be hacked. But that wasn't my question. The questions are does the motherboard have a WiFi chip which isn't on the specs. Do the cameras have the same or do both have the capability to connect to the mobile network?

 

I know this sounds like paranoid, secret squirrel stuff. But it's not. A number of TVs have microphones in them. It's nowhere in the specs but when you take it apart. There it is.

 

It's the same as phones. Even non Chinese phones still contact WiFi or the mobile network when in airplane mode.

[tomcctv 190]

1 hour ago, AnnkeDave72 said:

But that wasn't my question. The questions are does the motherboard have a WiFi chip which isn't on the specs. 

Yes it was your question….. secret Wi-Fi chip is your second question

 

the answer to your problem is the same above faulty hard drive and it is common 

 

you can also go into your router and look at inbound traffic …. Or contact your service provider for information on inbound 

constant freezing play back = this can be something as simple as wrong hard drive fittedWriting speed wrong

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video playback 6 secondsslower than HDD time marker and on and on = sign of bad sectors on your hard drive

sectors not in order to read so takes longer because of faulty sectors

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these are your questions in your first post

which points to bad hard drive ……. Your system even has a operation log ….which will show everything

[AnnkeDave72 0]

I can understand the hard drive causing those problems.

If I'm watching the screen in the normal viewing mode/live and a car goes by it shows on one cameras view but not the other two. How does a hard drive cause that problem because I assume the hard drive is copied from that live view?

It started off working normally. All 3 cameras showing what was happening as it happened. Then later on that day it started doing that. This is with the CCTV being extremely difficult to use in everyway. That is classic behaviour of the hackers in my online life.

 

I understand you thinking I'm one of those crazy nuts who thinks we're all being watched. But I'm not being paranoid. It's being going on for around 12 years and there isn't even a 0.0000000000001% chance that if a hacker can effect the CCTV system in anyway that it isn't being done. Either via hacking, some sort of device which can be placed physically near my cameras etc because it is happening in my real life as well as my online life. Basically it started in real life with a small group of people. A hacker then joined in and it snowballed from there.

 

From your point of view the hard drive is the most likely cause. Even if hacking the CCTV is possible. It is, I agree the most logical explanation to nearly all. But in my case it's not. It's only something you can understand if your the one it's being done too or the people doing it. It's at such a scale that if I tried to explain only 20% of what's going on you would think I'm crazy. In situations like this. Yes it could simply be the hard drive but because of the efforts they will go to, to achieve the smallest thing it's not my first thought as to the cause of the problems.

 

I just don't know enough about CCTV to understand how they could be effecting it. If they are. Please accept my apology if I'm coming across the wrong way and you think your just wasting your time with a crazy, paranoid nut.

[tomcctv 190]

Hi your easiest solution is to swap out your nvr …there a cheap solution

 

as far as car on one screen and not the other depends on how live view is configured on your unit …. Some new so called 4K systems like yours needs to be processed (4Kviewing)this also uses hard drive

do you know what hard drive you have fitted to your unit 

[AnnkeDave72 0]

It's a WD Purple 3TB. It isn't new but I've tested it with Crystaldiskinfo and the Seagate HDD checker and it seems okay. Passed the SMART test etc okay. It does however have quite a few hours on it. I can't remember exactly.

If as you said my NVR uses the hard drive to process the 4k viewing then that would make sense. It also explains why things got worse during the day. The more I used the hard drive the more it failed.

A new hard drive and then seeing what happens seems like the best option. I was going to a new one as well but the second hand one was such a good deal. Not so much now!

 

[AnnkeDave72 0]

I should have asked. If I need a new NVR is there one you recommend? Or a complete system might be better because there was a bad temper, alcohol and some cutting of cables involved 😁

[tomcctv 190]

12 hours ago, AnnkeDave72 said:

It's a WD Purple 3TB. It isn't new It does however have quite a few hours on it.

Hi. There is always a reason why I ask a lot of questions…. Put them all together  and get to the problem.

 

I’ll explain why you think your system has been hacked now knowing your hard drive history without your system not on any network

a hacker will first change your password and lock you out cctv that 98% of all hacks

 

in your case it’s not a hack it’s using a secondhand hard drive that is already infected with a malware or spyware that it has been infected with on what ever else it was used in 

I trying to think of a simple way of putting it 

look at is this way your hard drive has Alzheimer's its confused 

also known as corrupt hard drive. bad sectors slowing speed

 

the good new is malware or spyware on your hard drive will not get onto your nvr it only writes to a hard drive there is no storage on your nvr to be infected

its always been said always use a brand new hard drive straight out of the packet and into nvr …. Then the nvr will automatically format the drive for it use on that nvr

so don’t waste money on a new nvr just buy a new hard drive

[AnnkeDave72 0]

That's interesting what you've said. The drive came from Cex and hadn't been wiped. I was nosey and looked at some of the footage.

I did do a 'clean all' on the drive via diskpart. I mistakenly believed it was similar to dBan. But after 5 minutes online it turns out its nowhere near as good.

So from what you've said it's highly likely the original owner which was a reasonable sized business. Had problems and just replaced all their drives. Which links in with them not wiping the drive. The 'clean all' didn't wipe the infection or if it did it re infected the drive after I wiped it via my computer. I've then just naturally assumed it was to do with what I'm going through.

Normally drives I've had from Cex have been wiped. I'm assuming they got dumped with a load of 3tb drives and couldn't be bothered to take the time. Luckily I've had no problems on my computer. I'll buy a new drive and try that. Thank you for your help and time.