USB IP Camera connection

[bob_4323 0]

I have IP camera's with standard RJ45 Ethernet and POE adapters running to a standard ethernet switch, with the cameras then controlled by iSpy running on a PC - itself connected by RJ45 cable to the switch.

I see the manufacturer mostly now supplies USB, instead if a RJ45 socket.

I presume this is to make supply of power simpler, and reduce costs.

How though do you connect up a number of USB cameras to something like iSpy, do you use a USB hub/splitter, and then connect that to a PC USB port ?

if you have a number of USB camera's connected, can the one USB Cable feeding the hub handle to current required ?

May seem a simple question, but have never come across a USB hub.

[tomcctv 190]

7 hours ago, bob_4323 said:

I presume this is to make supply of power simpler, and reduce costs.

Usb cameras are usually webcams or cheap China smart cams that only need 5volt with is max for usb

best not getting them confused with iP cameras cctv

[bob_4323 0]

best not getting them confused with iP cameras cctv  

Presume IP cameras come with the ability to 'login' directly to the camera, which something like iSpy needs.

This is an example of such a camera:

http://www.elpcctv.com/elp-13-megapixel-ar0130-low-illumination-black-white-monochrome-usb-camera-p-320.html

They used to be supplied with RJ45 connection, but now come with USB, would you connect multiple cameras to one PC using a USB hub/splitter:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254726391408

 

[tomcctv 190]

18 hours ago, bob_4323 said:

hey used to be supplied with RJ45 connection, but now come with USB, would you connect multiple cameras to one PC using a USB hub/splitter:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254726391408

did you notice the url website warning with the camera website …. Even my isp blocked your link….. iP track shows domain uk but infact from China and is classed as data theft site

 

but again you have come onto a cctv forum that can help you yet you don’t want to learn the basics

usb cameras are just the same as webcams or pc mouse or keyboards and external hard drives…….. they plug into usb hub local to pc 

thinking you can run cctv cameras over say a distance of 5 meter and above your going to loose the 5volt power that is max on usb

[bob_4323 0]

Apologise if my question appeared basic, the information from the vendor is quite limited being a chinese company.

Your answer has been very helpful.

I found a brief description here that has helped:
https://www.camsecure.co.uk/USBwebcamIPwebcam.html

So in essence a USB camera lacks the Linux 'Server' ability to authenticate remote connections and serve its data that an IP camera possesses, a USB camera must rely on a separate device to do this, it is a 'dumb' device, restricted to USB:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB

I note your comment on the voltage drop over 5mts+, if used over 5+ mts assume instead of a USB hub connected adjacent to a PC/Device you would need to then hop onto IP with POE to continue the run, with one of these:
5V PoE Splitter, 48V to 5V 2.4A Adapter with Micro-USB Plug, for IP Camera
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115427907775

Seems odd ELP have replaced most of there IP with USB cameras then, most CCTV camera would have runs of 5+ mts. In what circumstances is it favourable to have a USB camera over say an IP camera.

Comment regarding the URL, a VirusTotal scan reports two out of 89 Security Vendors found this site as Malicious, although the nodes appeared to not be, I have purchased from this company several times over the years and experienced no issues, so perceive them to be a good player.

[tomcctv 190]

2 hours ago, bob_4323 said:

I note your comment on the voltage drop over 5mts+, if used over 5+ mts assume instead of a USB hub connected adjacent to a PC/Device you would need to then hop onto IP with POE to continue the run, with one of these:
5V PoE Splitter, 48V to 5V 2.4A Adapter with Micro-USB Plug, for IP Camera

Why on earth do it that way ….. now your looking at injectors costs and also having to keep a pc on …… since your looking at injectors at each camera …. Why on earth not just use iP camera instead

but again another problem usb data from camera …. What do you think that data distance is ?

also I’ll point out all your links are to usb WEBCAM devices. …… don’t get them mixed up with cctv

Seems odd ELP have replaced most of there IP with USB cameras then, most CCTV camera would have runs of 5+ mts. In what circumstances is it favourable to have a USB camera over say an IP camera.

 

No it’s not odd ELP want access  to every pc you plug there devices into which is a stupid thing to do and the url has a lot more warnings than two infact it’s blocked on most isp …. Not just your uk link (which it’s not) but even there main url is blocked 

so there is another warning as you have already seen yet your ignoring it

even your camera link is junk as it’s for a black and white camera only ( monochrome)

 

 

[bob_4323 0]

OK, it appears ELP CCTV, http://www.elpcctv.com/, who used to sell IP security camera equipment, now sell mostly just USB camera's, for use insuch things as industrial and vending equipment etc (going by their Youtube video), hence all their camera's are USB.

Maybe they should change thier website address ! its very misleading.

USB Security Camera's as you suggest are ' Usb cameras are usually webcams or cheap China smart cams', am I right to say that a proper IP camera is going to be a better solution, and even better than an analogue camera ? I already have a network of IP camera's, and spare cables run ready.