D&C_ELECTRONICS 1 Posted July 7, 2004 A customer asks me for a DVR system that can record up 50FPS per camera. Actually they asked me for 1.Total number of cameras 400 (100 PTZ) and 50 points (cameras) that will have microphones 2.Minimum 15ips at 352x288, desired 50ips for some of the cameras 3.Log file for the users of the system 4.Click able map with all the cameras on a floor plan 5.Digital recording of all cameras and microphones for at least 20 days 6.They need 10 simultaneous viewing stations (live view, recorded view, sound) 7.Some recordings need high-speed recording for a couple of days and then an automated process that will save the recordings in lower frame rate 8.The compression must not be MPEG 9.RS232 interface to connect the matrix with the MICHON SW 10.The majority of fixed and PTZ cameras must not have AUTO IRIS and AUTO GAIN 11.The two sites are connected with 8X1 Gbit network of fiber optics 12.Approximate space needed 500 to 600 TB. but they prefer to buy the storage RAID locally Have you seen anything like that? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CCTVINSTALLER 0 Posted July 7, 2004 I dont know much about ips, but isn't 25fps real time?, i dont think you can get higher than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas 0 Posted July 7, 2004 Real time is a number approching infinity. But 24-28 will fool the human eye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cooperman 0 Posted July 7, 2004 D & C Hope you're not rushing against a deadline with this one. If it's in your own country, I vaguely remember that Greece used to be on SECAM (television standard); has that changed? do you need to output to any other external monitoring points? or can you use PAL (or NTSC) equipment throughout? Be careful with the 'fps' figures quoted for some higher end Digital recorders, because Display and Recording figures are often not the same. 480fps processing is available on some models (particularly from the far east), but most manufacturers use different compressions, so whilst some of the 'better' models may actually use MPEG-2 or MPEG-4; they might quote 400fps for display, but only 240fps for recording ( 15 fps in 352 x 288 resolution, on a 16 channel DVR). You'll perhaps need to split the cameras in to recording 'banks', so that you can more easily design (and manage) the eventual structure. If you bring the project in on time and on budget, you deserve a gold medal! Good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D&C_ELECTRONICS 1 Posted July 7, 2004 Actually in Greece we use PAL system. This system is for the Olympics games, so I have Les than a month. This is just a FAX that I received. Tomorrow I will have more information’s about this project. I found in the following link a DVR system and they use the word IPS instead FPS, but I don’t know if the system can record 1 camera up to 50 IPS (FPS). Honeywell doesn’t have the user manual available for download. http://www.ademcovideo.com/pdf/HoneywellFusionSpec.pdf Another system that I have in my mind is Win4Net. I think that the system support event recording up to 50 FPS, but I’m not sure. Also Win4Net doesn’t have the user manual available for download. Tomorrow I will have more info about the project. Any other ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cooperman 0 Posted July 7, 2004 PAL will make life a lot simpler in terms of equipment availability, but a four week deadline should prove interesting. A couple of UK based companies you can try for the DVR equipment (there are a number of others, but you'll need to do your research). http://www.tecton.co.uk - Chris Hall http://www.vigilanttechnology.com - Mark Novak I'm guessing you won't exactly match some of the specs laid down, simply because of the time limitations, but you never know until you try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AVCONSULTING 0 Posted July 7, 2004 A large system like that calls for something like NiceVision, Loronix, or PIVision. Here are some links. Be prepared to pay big bucks. http://www.nice.com/ http://www.pi-vision.com/ http://www.verint.com/video_solutions/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joebo 0 Posted July 8, 2004 2 more choices: Ultrak Enterprise Series Digital Video Management System. Nice system with excellent picture quality. Very hot in the casino market. http://www.ultrak.com/Download_Registrations/Product_Documentation_Center/Spec_Sheets/Digital/Digital_Recorders/index.htm ONSSI NetDVR. Another nice system with excellent picture quality. http://www.onssi.com PS. Congratulations on your EuroCup victory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cctv_down_under 0 Posted July 8, 2004 Go Greece!!!!!!!!! I must admit they were a little lucky with the result but good on them for an organised defence.. I guess that is what happens when you get a German coach.. well done!! On the DVR matter... Geo will do everything you just mentioned but will not automatically adjust picture size on a schedule but a simple batch file could achieve this. IPS is an image rating not a frame rating as two Images make one frame. so be carefull, as some manufactorers actually use Images per second instead of Frames to get a faster rating but sometimes they just use that wording and it is accurate. Other than that I see no problems with using a Geo system Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted July 8, 2004 http://www.geindustrial.com/cwc/products/ge-interlogix?pnlid=9&famid=63&catid=1088&id=ClearCast&lang=en_US enterprise system, designed for a casino type operation. Also check out this: (cheaper way of doing it) http://www.geindustrial.com/ge-interlogix/facilitycommander/index.html http://www.geindustrial.com/cwc/products/ge-interlogix?pnlid=9&famid=63&catid=1086&id=Paragon&lang=en_US Share this post Link to post Share on other sites