Wireless Video Solutions Leaders

[nachzeher 0]

Hi, I'd like to know who are worldwide leaders in wireless video solutions, I mean, point to point and point to multipoint solutions (no mesh). I could say any companies like Verint, Airtegrity, Airaya, RAD, Trango or Wavesight but I don't know who are the best in this area, any idea?

 

Thanks for your help,

 

Nach

[WirelessEye 0]

I don''t know if I'd say any of those are "leaders" in wireless video. They do make wireless radios, but a lot of people do. Video is data, and all radios send data.

 

The companies you mention do wireless, but you're paying a fraction for their equipment, and all the rest for their brand name.

 

When trying to find a "leader" in wireless for video, just look for wireless radios and then look at their specs. Do your homework and then narrow it down to 2-3 different radios, then go off price.

 

By the way, I've noticed a lot of wireless providers at ISC, ASIS bagging on the other people at the show saying that their "solution" is the best. Then I ask them what their stuff can do, and how much it costs. They tell me their stuff can do XXMbps @ XX Miles for X amount of dollars, and then I realize what a rip off they are.

[rory 0]

VideoComm is one of the major players.

[VST_Man 1]

my vote is with the CIA

[rory 0]

my vote is with the CIA

 

Yeah they are rough ..

[nachzeher 0]

Thanks, CIA? jejeje You're right

[sven 0]

Always ask to place their results in streaming video

Why not on YOUTUBE -

Certainly for cameras. I asked X10 to do that and they don't !!!!

[iSpyVision 0]

We recenty did a job that we used Avalan 900mhz radios. We had to send video 2000' NLS thru 6 giant 2 & 3 story houses not to mention countless giant maple trees to a building that was surrounded by redwoods. I didn't think we had even a slight chance of getting signal with all that. We actually ended up getting 4 1/2 bars out of 5 at 30fps. All I could say was "Wow"

[WirelessEye 0]

True, but even at 5 bars you're only going to get 1Mbps with Avalan. That's why we never bought any of their stuff.

 

There's a lot of other 900Mhz equipment out there that is 54Mbps, not to mention cheaper. Although, I don't recommend using 900Mhz unless you absolutely have to, due to the saturation of that frequency.

[CollinR 0]

Although, I don't recommend using 900Mhz unless you absolutely have to, due to the saturation of that frequency.

 

What about vertical?

 

(If you haven't figured it yet, I know next to jack about REAL wifi.)

[iSpyVision 0]

Can you give us any names of the "other Places" that you use?

Thanks

[WirelessEye 0]

Although, I don't recommend using 900Mhz unless you absolutely have to, due to the saturation of that frequency.

 

What about vertical?

 

(If you haven't figured it yet, I know next to jack about REAL wifi.)

 

Vertical? Are you talking about polarization? If so, it doesn't really matter. Polarization, both horizontal and vertical are flooded in 900Mhz pretty much in any urban environment. 900Mhz is ideal to use in suburban environments where trees are an issue.

[WirelessEye 0]

Can you give us any names of the "other Places" that you use?

Thanks

 

I can't really tell you what we use as we have tons of R&D into it. It's a combination of components that we've found to work very well together. So in answering your question-- we build our own radios.

 

There are other sources for 900Mhz radios however. "Smarter Security Solutions" makes a nice setup, pricing is below Avalan. I don't quite remember, but their data rate is either 48Mbps or 54Mbps. "Encon Wireless" is another that does 54Mbps-- don't know pricing on these however.

[iSpyVision 0]

I understand. I really don't have time to build my own radios anyway but I am always looking to save a few dollars on a "working" system. So I guess my question is would you entertain the idea of selling your radio setups on a case by cases basis for a reasonable price? Do you set up dealer accounts? I see your not to far from us.

Thanks

[woodyads 0]

No-one in the CCTV space is good at wireless...period. Stick to Cisco, Orthogon (Motorola) Tropos. Etc. There are still issues with WAP2 and other security protocols even with the best. And at some point it needs to come back to a switch. You need to be thinking high temperature, low temperature, Viop capabilities, low power consumption, variable voltage, Qos compatibility, packet filtering, backplane speed, manageable devices, again Cisco, Nortel. You need to be thinking carrier grade, military grade hardware. Don't put your cameras and wireless in the same basket. Put your wirless in the basket with your switches routers and servers. And your security servers should be in the same basket as your mail server and SQL servers.

[WirelessEye 0]

We don't currently sell our wireless setups, but we are discussing the possibility at our next board meeting. I'll let you know.

 

Cisco wireless equipment until recently was junk-- then didn't even adopt the atheros chipset because they were stuck with "their heads in the sand" trying to use their own proprietary chipset instead of something that was mature, proven and reliable.

 

As far as their stuff right now-- they finally are using atheros, but just as with their other network equipment, you pay for their logo. But their stuff also has 2x the current consumption as what we use so beware if you are power constrained. Cisco does make excellent LAN equipment, their radios however are not mature enough to be considered carrier class.

[rory 0]

No-one in the CCTV space is good at wireless...

 

Have you tried VideoComm?

Ive used them and they work great.

[woodyads 0]

Just to elaborate. While most wireless hardware works, working is not good enough. Being part of a large multinational its a real headache to get wireless hardware to jump through the hoops for approval. For integrators it must be a real nightmare. You just get use to setting up one device then your next customer tells you you can't use it on their site. I constantly have third party vendors coming to site with different telemetry systems that don't fit our standards. "But we have it running down the road at such and such." I tell them to develop to the toughest standards so that their solution will suit all sites.

 

That's why I say no-one from the CCTV industry is good at wireless. As an integrator you don't want 30 different solutions. So my advice is align your solution with a large tight company. A big multinational Mining, Banking, Casino or Airport company. I also agree that Cisco and the other big names don't have the best stuff. But they do get through the corporate hoops and the interface are compatible with enterprise systems. Sometimes these large corporations want Cisco because their switches and routers are Cisco and they want to manage them from the one interface. That's a pretty good reason.

 

We are currently working with Tropos to get their Mesh through the corporate hoops. Delivery date is still a couple of months away and it will be interesting to see if they can deliver. If not I will look at other systems.

[rory 0]

Yeah but you are talking about Wireless Networking, while the topic is Wireless Video Solutions, such as Trango, VideoComm, etc. Non networked video, Real Time Motion video without any bandwidth issues.

[woodyads 0]

Yeh your right there Rory I did assume IP when the topic is wireless.

 

Have to agree with WirelessEye. Don't use 900 unless you have to. I inherited a 900Mhz non IP camera system that was interfering with GPS in our pit. I still have several vendors using 900 for different non camera systems and I am weening them off it. Replacing it with a big fat IP backbone on various frequencies and channels. 900 is reserved for 2-way radios.