Specs for cam

[lillCCTV 0]

Hi!

 

My first project in a gas-station I would apreciate if someone gave me some suggestions of cam-specs for usage on a gas-station. Its outdooor, but under a roof, but a variety of lighting. Need identification of car-plates etc.

 

thanks

 

Sorry for posting it in wrong forum...i dunno how to move it

Edited March 20, 2007 by Guest

[lillCCTV 0]

One of my options is a Ex-view 480TVL day/night cam with OSD and 0.05 Lux/F1.2, any comments ?

[phred 0]

Take those specs with a big pinch of salt.

 

You need a camera with wide dynamic range (WDR) to cope with headlights.

 

If you want reliable number plate recognition then I suggest you look for a

proper NPR camera, they are highly specialised and built for the job.

[lillCCTV 0]

Take those specs with a big pinch of salt.

 

You need a camera with wide dynamic range (WDR) to cope with headlights.

 

If you want reliable number plate recognition then I suggest you look for a

proper NPR camera, they are highly specialised and built for the job.[/quote

 

Yes, i also have a WDR camera as a option. But sorry, what is a NPR camera ?]

[phred 0]

NPR = Number Plate Recognition

[lillCCTV 0]

NPR = Number Plate Recognition

 

Hehe..i could almost feel it comin......but i couldt see it before it was too late

[phred 0]

Jokes on me - in the US you call it LPR - License Plate Recognition

[securitymonster 0]

I would go with a good day/night setup, we recently ran some Ganz day/night cameras and they worked well at the gas station. We have them recording the money transactions at the pump. If your looking to identify license plates, you'll want an Extreme REG series LPR (License Plate Recognition) camera, they are second to none!

 

Spend some money, don't go cheap! If you buy inexpensive cameras, you'll get an inexpensive picture!

[rikky 0]

important is to define with your customer the specific field of view he wants to obtain. It's common that gas station-owners want to have it all with only 1 camera, meaning an overview of all lanes + the license plates of the different cars.

As stated already above, beware that each application requires specific cameras / lenses.

[lillCCTV 0]

Well, i have heard a lot of those Extreme cameras, but thats only here at the forum, because here in Scandinavia ive never heard about them, and i cant see any distributor either. Most important for me, is to be able to compete with the other companies delivering cameras for these purposes, and i dont think anyone of them using Extreme. What prices are we talking about here anyway ?

 

Actually i want to ask you guys to choose one of two options : either a WDR or a good day/night cam

 

Thanks

 

To Rikky : This guy wants 1 cam for each pump (lane) . There is always light under this roof, but sometimes it also might be a little sunshine on the cars standing there.

[phred 0]

Sorry Lill, thought you were in the US because you used the term 'gas station'.

 

Take a look at Bosch Dinion XF – expensive but very capable on all counts. Still not as good as an LPR camera but probably as good as you will get for tricky lighting.

[lillCCTV 0]

Sorry Lill, thought you were in the US because you used the term 'gas station'.

 

Take a look at Bosch Dinion XF – expensive but very capable on all counts. Still not as good as an LPR camera but probably as good as you will get for tricky lighting.

 

Gas station....yes, well, guees i have seen to many of your movies over there maybe

[Deluxecctv.com 0]

I would go with a good day/night camera. These seem to work well outside of gas stations due to florescent lighting. Have you figured out what type of DVR you’re going with? Let me know if you have anymore questions.

[lillCCTV 0]

I would go with a good day/night camera. These seem to work well outside of gas stations due to florescent lighting. Have you figured out what type of DVR you’re going with? Let me know if you have anymore questions.

 

Well, yes, i have now decided what equipment to use. I will try this DVR : http://www.topicacctv.com/1/products-detail.jsp?product_id=139

 

And this camera : http://www.topicacctv.com/1/products-detail-spec.jsp?product_id=11

 

You gurus...please dont cut of my head for not using any of the brands that gets all the credit here in the forum I will try this, and i will post my clients thoughts when we have tested it .

 

Thanks guys !

[rory 0]

^^ LOL .. let us know ..

 

Also you can get Extreme CCTV Reg cameras from the UK, check with any of the major distributors there. Derwent, who makes the IR used in Extreme Cameras, is based in the UK, and there is an Extreme CCTV UK department also.

[CollinR 0]

Most important for me, is to be able to compete with the other companies delivering cameras for these purposes, and i dont think anyone of them using Extreme. What prices are we talking about here anyway ?

 

you need to ditch that ENTIRE mindset...

 

Here I'll redo it for you...

 

 

Most important for me, is to be able to provide my customers with a reliable system that actually fits their needs for the least cost possible.

 

 

 

You will always have jack@sses that will ~claim~ they can do everything for nothing. Don't get involved in that.

 

 

When I ampresented with this I basically explain to the customer how my contract works. I explain that some of the features they have requested increase their costs significantly. In order for me to provide the level of service the contract discribes for that function the price is XXX. Explain many will claim their systems will do this, but few actually do. Fewer provide refunds for functionality paid for yet not realized.

[lillCCTV 0]

^^ LOL .. let us know ..

 

Also you can get Extreme CCTV Reg cameras from the UK, check with any of the major distributors there. Derwent, who makes the IR used in Extreme Cameras, is based in the UK, and there is an Extreme CCTV UK department also.

 

Maybe i missed something...but isnt the main purpose for those cams to identificate number plates in the dark??

[rory 0]

^^ LOL .. let us know ..

 

Also you can get Extreme CCTV Reg cameras from the UK, check with any of the major distributors there. Derwent, who makes the IR used in Extreme Cameras, is based in the UK, and there is an Extreme CCTV UK department also.

 

Maybe i missed something...but isnt the main purpose for those cams to identificate number plates in the dark??

 

Day and night .. 24/7 guaranteed.

(well not guaranteed actually .. its like a 85-90% ratio i believe)

[lillCCTV 0]

^^ LOL .. let us know ..

 

Also you can get Extreme CCTV Reg cameras from the UK, check with any of the major distributors there. Derwent, who makes the IR used in Extreme Cameras, is based in the UK, and there is an Extreme CCTV UK department also.

 

Maybe i missed something...but isnt the main purpose for those cams to identificate number plates in the dark??

 

Day and night .. 24/7 guaranteed.

(well not guaranteed actually .. its like a 85-90% ratio i believe)

 

Yes, i know its a day & night, but a gas station will never be dark. So do you really need this high end camera then ? I cannot say ive ever seen such a camera on a gas station before..... I havent decided to disagree with you though, im just trying to understand this...

[rory 0]

^^ LOL .. let us know ..

 

Also you can get Extreme CCTV Reg cameras from the UK, check with any of the major distributors there. Derwent, who makes the IR used in Extreme Cameras, is based in the UK, and there is an Extreme CCTV UK department also.

 

Maybe i missed something...but isnt the main purpose for those cams to identificate number plates in the dark??

 

Day and night .. 24/7 guaranteed.

(well not guaranteed actually .. its like a 85-90% ratio i believe)

 

Yes, i know its a day & night, but a gas station will never be dark. So do you really need this high end camera then ? I cannot say ive ever seen such a camera on a gas station before..... I havent decided to disagree with you though, im just trying to understand this...

 

No, you should be able to get away with a Panasonic Box WDR camera in a housing then .. with a 5-50mm lens ... well actually you will need several

[CollinR 0]

No, you should be able to get away with a Panasonic Box WDR camera in a housing then .. with a 5-50mm lens ... well actually you will need several

 

 

Right thats what I was getting at, LRP is not usually a 1 camera deal. If it is you see next to nothing of the pumps and parking lot. LRP done right and functional is not cheap.

[lillCCTV 0]

Thanks