rory 0 Posted May 22, 2007 Version 8.11 of geovision supports IP cameras. How well I have no idea, as I dont have any IP cams to test it with.. But it does allow you to add IP cameras, you need to enter the server ip, and other details. I thought it was just the video server thing, not IP cams ... ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
501 0 Posted May 22, 2007 I think Rory is right, 8.11 only supports the IP servers, but the next version will support IP cams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CollinR 0 Posted May 22, 2007 Yup Geo does not support IP cams and definately not the 2.4MP that the Aver products do. Granted these cameras are not fully supported as Aver is reling on their web interface which is less then optimal. All cameras need a dedicated network, be it made of RG59 or Cat5. The maintence is the same, they basically don't mess up once properly assembled and configured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kensplace 0 Posted May 22, 2007 cheers for the clarification, I guess I was mislead by the 'install IP cameras' on the menu, and the box asking how many ip cameras you want to install. Misleading of geo that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted May 23, 2007 cheers for the clarification, I guess I was mislead by the 'install IP cameras' on the menu, and the box asking how many ip cameras you want to install. Misleading of geo that its still good though, you can install 1 single cheap color bullet camera at a clients location with the video server for very little money, no DVR or NVR or expensive network video gear involved .. then monitor it remotely along with other local cameras .. or using Control Center .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abigailhamilton 0 Posted June 22, 2007 Hikvision H.264 cards are the best for quality and performance. Get them at [Edited:CR - Removed link to vendor site] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kangtree 0 Posted June 26, 2007 How abt this one? it can do: 1.4ch D1(704*576) in real time 2.8ch CIF in real time 3.8ch D1 in 20fps/ch ... but it only sell for 250$ MODEL KVECXX04F 4/8 channel compression card FEATURES H.264 (MPEG4 Part 10) compression algorithm with high compression ratio & good image quality Realtime live display up to 32 cameras with D1 resolution Realtime video/audio recording with no frame lost. Support multiple resolution type: D1, 2CIF, CIF, QCIF. Support dual encoding stream rate for local recording and network use. Provide full SDK & demonstration with source code Provide player SDK & network SDK for PC platform Smart video detection: motion detection, camera blank, video loss. Smart camera settings: privacy masking, camera lock, color setting, and title display Support OSD, LOGO & MASK Overlay. SPECIFICATIONS General DSP Model - TI DM642 PCI Standard - PCI 2.2, PCI-X Video Video Input - 4/8/16 Channel, BNC, 1.0Vp-p, 75Ω Video Standards - PAL（625Line，50f/s），NTSC（525Line，60f/s） Video Compression - H.264 Video Resolution – Format NTSC PAL D1(4CIF) 704 X 480 704 X 576 2CIF 704 X 240 704 X 288 CIF 352 X 240 352 X 288 QCIF 176 X 120 176 X 144 Video Recording - PAL 1f/s-25f/s, NTSC 1f/s-30f/s Video Display Split - Full and multiple screen display, 1 / 4 / 8 / 9 / 16/25/32 Image Quality - 1~6 level(Level 6 is the best) Motion Detection - Zones: 192 (16*12) detection zones Sensitivity: 1~6 (level 6 is highest) Privacy Masking - Self-defined four-sided zones for privacy masking for each camera Camera Adjustment - Adjust color according to different time period Audio Audio Input - 4/8/16 channel, BNC, 200-2800mV, 30KΩ Audio Compression - PCM/ADPCM Hard Disk Space Occupation - Audio :14.4MB/H Video :56~400MB/H HDD Management - Hard disk hibernation technology, HDD faulty alarm, I/O error alarm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G-Mac 0 Posted June 26, 2007 KVECXX04F 4/8 channel compression card That's a HikVision card with a different model number. Looks exactly like the one in my hand. DS-4008HCI, if I'm not mistaken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
501 0 Posted June 26, 2007 G-Mac, are these the cards that Airship uses? I checked out your site and the demo's and the videos and liked what I saw. I would really like to see some sample clips of regular CCTV cameras recorded on your DVR's. Currently my company uses Geovision with great success, hwo does your product and prices compare? PM if you prefer. Cheers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cctv_down_under 0 Posted June 27, 2007 Ultimately, we will all be using Mega Pixel cameras soon, the only limitation is just how to you transport the bandwidth and how do you view it...for example. A large 20 Megapixel cctv camera image is huge and you would need to scroll around the image to find the info you want, this is fine after the fact but not so fine for live viewing...so the problem is...... Imagine viewing an entire carpark of 400 cars, quite easy to do with a huge megapixel camera, but can you see the guy in the corner breaking into a car because the gate was left open or can you see the girl getting harrased on the walkway....well yes you can but only if you go back to have a look becasue it is far too much to view in one image. The latest products I have seen are truley amazing... they take one very large 20 - 30 Megapixel image of a large area, you then mark the areas of interest on that huge image...IE entry gate, walkway etc by drwaing a box around it and zooming into that point...that box becomes a camera.... to explain more simply imagine this. 1 x Huge image from 1 camera becomes 10 camera views that are zoomed in, the effect is that you now have 10 cameras that can be viewed individually on the screen at once, the remainder of the unused areas is still recorded but each box or camera zoom has its own zoom point and indeed its own IP address...it is truley amazing and it works out fairly cheap for unobstructed views! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted June 27, 2007 Yeah that IS great Been around for a while also .. (Covi, etc) .. (not 20 MP though .. thats rough) .. I imagine they have taken it somewhat further now also ... Heck I could do that with my USB webcam using my own code .. thanks for the ideas ... Though most places Ive seen arent unobstructed .. except some car park areas .. (sorry no stadiums down here) .. my place for one example .. i have 4 cameras mounted .. but I need at least 6 .. reason is one on each side of the building .. then down one side there are trees that the landlord decided to leave there .. tropical thing and all .. anyway i have to add at least another 2 cameras .. but really i need a few more than that, time as i get around all the trees, bushes, and buildings . .. If I want full coverage that is Now a Megapixel camera would be great and all, but as a typical home user, no way Im shelling out the cash for one of those .. man these $50 bullets work just fine Maybe in time they will drop the cost on those to mimic the cost of my bullet camera .. until then ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cctv_down_under 0 Posted June 27, 2007 I tottaly agree Rory, it is not a finished product yet becasue of price point, however it will get cheaper as you rightly pointed out, quite obviously no camera can see around corners but quite rightly as well a lot of times you can take advantage of the resolution.....one example would be a cash register, how many times do we say that you can see the notes....OR...the customers and products and not both...or an Entry camera that is zoomed in......I am not saying it is ready now, just that it is obvious we will be heading down this path, the resolutions are growing and using stitching technologies and mirror optics allows for multiple Meag Pixel cameras to be enclosed in one unit. I guess down the track we will have no need of a DVR, just massive storage, quite simply compression will be at the camera and each cam will see as much as it can without obstruction...our design will be simple becasue we will simply find a point on the wall that can be seen from many points...IE walk around and see if you can still see that point...every time you can see that point on the wall you will be able to cover that area...we will simply apply a blanket approach to large areas and then one larger image will become several cameras with several IP's. Prices will fall because their is less of a need of hardware and the same technology is driven for consumer electronics...be prepared to see people like Cannon and others agressively enter the CCTV market... it would seem that big companies that sell consumer photograpy products will be entering the arena heavily. IP mega cams will become mainstream within 4 or 5 years, there is simply no reason that they will not become affordable...better start learning IP a lot more ..me thinks I know of one company in particular that s about to release Mega Pixel cams for the firts time with this zoning and IP approach, they are scheduled for release early next year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted June 27, 2007 Yep and dont forget, no more hard drives Cant wait for that .. they have huge solid state drives now .. pricey but hey .. we can only wait .. 256GB SSD announced .. http://www.pqi.com.tw/news_1.asp?ID=1617 (heard simpltec also announced 500GB ones for this year) Ahhh ... technology But hey, they'll still be DVRs .. Digital Video Recorders ... even an NVR is a DVR .. just a marketing pitch is all .. as they both record Digital Video ... hey we use DVRs to record TV and all .. the term DVR wont go away anytime soon .. unless we get rid of Digital Video ... just like an AvTech 4 channel is completely different from a Geovision 1480 ... but they're still DVRs .. yet they are soooo different. * hooks up his 3MP digital still camera that cost $99 and watches the crisp images from it .. yet remembers cant see what he took at night, as its one of the cheap cmos cameras , so goes back to his sweet analog (so called digital) camera on his 13" CRT TV ** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
