HELP Urgent !!! DVR Selection Compare

[usafelix 0]

Hi anybody ,

 

I am now evaluate of two DVR system is NETFOCUS NH-7016 16 CHANNEL

& SUMSUNG DVR SPR4416P SYSTEM , WHICH IS BETTER AND WHAT IS

DIFFERENT POINT BY ADVANTAGE AND DISADVANTAGE ?

 

 

 

THANK A LOT FOR YOUR HELPS

 

BEST RGDS

 

 

[FredB 0]

provide some links please

[usafelix 0]

We don't need the hyperlink just hope can get your idea which system is better or comment by netfocus and samsung CCTV ??

[usafelix 0]

Samsung system link is : http://www.sinocentury.com.hk/product.asp?productlisttype=brandorder&showbrandproduct=true&brand_code=6

 

netfocus system the link is : http://www.fore2000.com/en/dvr.htm

 

 

pls comment 2 system which is better , why ?

[rory 0]

They both dont look very good.

 

Never heard of the Netfocus DVR. You might want to post this also in PC DVR forum as this is mostly for embedded stand alone DVRs.

[FredB 0]

My 2 cents from just reading the specs. I have not tried them so I don't really know about stability, but high end dvr's don't ually crash to often.

 

Samsung:

Pros: Name brand,

Cons: Not a big supporter of H.263. Streams great but the recording quality full frame sucks. VPON uses same codec. I usally get the vpon webserver just for the streaming part. Win 2000 instead of Linux. Not as stable as Linux. ( Probably has more to do with not partion the Hard drive correctly, and using the DVR as a video gane computer. Quake won't work with Linux as far as I know) 1 channel audio.

 

Netfocus:

Pros: Mpeg-4, looks better and scales better then H.263, 16 channel audio

Cons: Never heard of them. What re you doing if the DVR dies? Send it back to Taiwan?

 

Personibly I like the imbedded ones better then the "Computer" DVR's. The live video usally look a lot better because the signal doesn't have to go through the computer and be converted. I also like the "operating system on the chip" concept. I the HD dies the system still works as a multiplex, so the customer has something to look at. "Computer" DVR's usually have some extra features, but from my experiance, 99% of the customers could care less about anyway. Must people are to busy running there business to have time to mess around with a DVR anyway.

 

Just my 2 cents...

[rory 0]

Samsung:

Pros: Name brand,

 

Actually, its not the genuine brand of Samsung, it is the cheaper Samsung with crappier products, it is the Samsung Brand that most distributors in the US sell though.

 

The Genuine Samsung:

http://www.samsungtechwin.com

 

This is their real Samsung 16 Channel DVR:: It is actually a very good DVR...

http://www.spytown.com/sasv16chdivi.html

 

Either way, the both of these are not popular DVRs, there are many others out there that are tested and proven.

[cctv_down_under 0]

Techwin, is not Genuine Samsung, Samsung Electronics is, Techwin is a spin off, they do make some stuff but mostly OEM. Electronics Makes all that is sells!

[rory 0]

Techwin is ELECTRONICs, the other one, is cheap stuff

http://www.samsungcctv-info.com/

Techwin makes all the samsung products like engineering products, etc.

 

 

ABOUT SAMSUNG GROUP

 

----------------------

 

"Each company within the Samsung Group is an independent legal entity. Samsung Group is not a legal entity. Samsung Group is a term to conveniently refer to a group of companies that are tied together by their corporate history. Therefore, please do not mistake the companies by their use of the similar name Samsung. In particular, no company within the Samsung Group can accept or receive service of process on behalf of another. "

 

-------------------------------------------------------

 

"Starting with the aircraft engine business in 1977, SAMSUNG TECHWIN has conducted nationwide and industry-wide important business related to high-technology industries.

 

SAMSUNG TECHWIN transferred its industries (a domestically intergrated business entity) in 1999 and currently concentrates on the high- technology industry, including semiconductor systems,opto-electronics, engine business, and special businesses related to national defense.

 

In the digital optics business, SAMSUNG TECHWIN created a foundation to grow as an internationally known company based on accumulated optics technology.

 

In semiconductor systems, with remarkable achievements,such as development of the world fastest chip mounter and next generation lead frame, SAMSUNG TECHWIN is recognized as a leading global semiconductor system company.

 

In the new millennium, SAMSUNG TECHWIN will continuously progress as a top-ranking, profitable, and high-tech company, focusing on engines, special businesses,digital optics, and semiconductor systems. "

 

 

"With the independent design and development of the short-focus average-level camera in '86 as the

beginning, the institute, established with the objectives of independence of optical technology and

early localization of camera manufacturing, secured independent development technology power

in the area of the zoom camera in the early 1990s, and competes equally with other international leading

camera makers. With pride as the only camera development institute in the nation, it also

develops new competitive products every year and competes fairly with other leading manufacturers

in the world market, as well as the domestic market. Major R&D areas of this institute,which is proceeding

with technology development with the objective of becoming the 3rd largest camera maker in the world

in 2001 through the creation of the most superior products, are the APS camera with new film standa

rds, high resolution digital steel camera that is a necessity in the age of multimedia, monitoring

camera, picture meeting system devices, high-quality binoculars, and high-magnification telephoto

lens development, including the short-focus zoom high-level camera for 35 mm film. With these various

R&D areas, it is leading the camera and precision instrument industry in the country."

 

"In the meantime, it achieved the heroic accomplishment of developing the world's first 4-magnific

ation zoom camera in 1994, ahead of Japanese camera makers, and also was acknowledged worl

dwide for its technological independence in its literal sense by receiving the TIDA award and EISA award

called the 'Nobel Prize' of the camera industry. It localized the technology of lens and shutter,

which is the core technology in the camera industry. With this as a turning point, it contributed to repl

acing it and was awarded the Gold Prize in the 28th Precision Technology Promotion Contest for its

development of the world's smallest 2-magnification zoom camera. The institute considered 2000 as

the starting point for leaping forward again to overcome the difficulties caused by IMF.

It shortened the development lead time by over 30% through development utilizing the

3D CAD design technology and innovation of development process through setting up E-CIM,

and as a result, in 2000, introduced a total of

13 new products, twice as many as was developed in 1998. Therefore, it received high praise from

customers and reporters from various nations at the European Convention '99 that was held in Lucerne,

Switzerland resulting from Samsung's aggressive development strategy.

 

In the near future, Samsung's 35mm APS camera will lead world markets by securing competitiven

ess through the development of products in the low price range utilizing family/modularization techn

ology, the development of products that added the advanced functions, and the development of

technology that enhances the appearance and updates design. In order to cope with the digital age

that is expected to grow rapidly since 2000, it intends to take a leap as the global research instit

ute of optical digital system development by expediting the development of the high-resolution comp

lex function digital camera, network-type monitoring camera, and picture meeting system"

Edited October 20, 2004 by Guest

[rory 0]

Techwin, is not Genuine Samsung, Samsung Electronics is, Techwin is a spin off, they do make some stuff but mostly OEM. Electronics Makes all that is sells!

 

the Samsung that makes the SCC line have totally different products, Techwins are much better from specs, and have a wide range of Wide Dynamic cameras. GVI who reps Samsung Electronics in the US sells alot of their own OEM (COP-USA type) products with the Samsung label on it, I have used them and they are not impressive.

[Thomas 0]

( Probably has more to do with not partion the Hard drive correctly, and using the DVR as a video gane computer. Quake won't work with Linux as far as I know)

 

Quake works perfectly well in Linux, as does Quake 2, Quake 3, I suspect Quake 4 will as well. ID has been pretty supportive of Linux gaming. Most FPS work well in Linux. You just need the Linux binaries which usually are on the CD.

[usafelix 0]

Hi FredDB ,

 

Thank you so much your comment and ideas by two DVR system on

Samsung and netfocus products .

 

I am now explain why we are looking for highly quality viedo recording

system to setup the new office for our company nature is running the

gold and jewellery wholesales supplier .

 

Thus , we need the high quality and professional feature the digital

recording video system for security control in our office , and we don't

have any technical staff can be suitable to evaluate two DVR system

feature . And all the system feature is provided by solution vendor

company , they said anything that we only to listen or obey on product

know how .

 

Mr Freddb would you mind tell me more suggestion under on our

company business nature which DVR system is apporiate to use ??

 

 

usafelix

[rory 0]

kalatel is a good stand alone, but depends where you are located..

[FredB 0]

( Probably has more to do with not partion the Hard drive correctly, and using the DVR as a video gane computer. Quake won't work with Linux as far as I know)

 

Quake works perfectly well in Linux, as does Quake 2, Quake 3, I suspect Quake 4 will as well. ID has been pretty supportive of Linux gaming. Most FPS work well in Linux. You just need the Linux binaries which usually are on the CD.

 

 

Was kind of a joke. My point was that using the DVR as your game computer is not exactly going to make it more stable, and is more likely to happen if you run windows. Never tried Quake. To busy working to play video games.

[FredB 0]

Hi FredDB ,

 

Thank you so much your comment and ideas by two DVR system on

Samsung and netfocus products .

 

I am now explain why we are looking for highly quality viedo recording

system to setup the new office for our company nature is running the

gold and jewellery wholesales supplier .

 

Thus , we need the high quality and professional feature the digital

recording video system for security control in our office , and we don't

have any technical staff can be suitable to evaluate two DVR system

feature . And all the system feature is provided by solution vendor

company , they said anything that we only to listen or obey on product

know how .

 

Mr Freddb would you mind tell me more suggestion under on our

company business nature which DVR system is apporiate to use ??

 

 

usafelix

 

Where are you located?

Kalatel as Rory said.

What exactly do you want from the DVR? Real time recording on all channels?, Audio on all channels?, remote access?, a Raid Bay for the HD?, great recording quality or great streaming, you usally don't get both in the same dvr?

[cctv_down_under 0]

Maybe your right Rory, but I know that techwin is way cheaper and way less quality, I should know I have tested both, both have different reps so the guy that sells Electronics told me that Techwin was previuosly a partner in Electronics, but split, I have also been told that Techwin does not manufacture much and that they OEM other products under the Samsung name, specs mean very little these days as many lie or cheat to get thier product spec'd, for example Ganz rates it's signal to noise ration on what is averaged from a long period where I ahev seen others that rate theirs on the highest it ever reached in their lab.. I am not convinced about the whole Samsung thing, but I must admit that Techwin ahs a really bad name here and Electronics outsells it even though it is much more expensive.

[rory 0]

Ok, but im only going by what the web site sais and what they show. The US Samsung Eletrconics is basically just a bunch of OEM products identical to COP-USA products and are cheap. They are the SCC Camera versions among their own brands, and are all crappy products which is why I have been staying clear of them.

 

I havent tried any of the Techwin so I cant comment on that.

Samsung Techwin is Korean by the way incase you are mixing them up.

I aint vouching for anyone cause they are getting paid, not me! )

[AVCONSULTING 0]

Oz, you have it right but in reverse. Samsung Techwin is the official Samsung source for factory products. Samsung/GVI is an importer of Samsung products as well as many other products and is based out of Texas. GVI is essentially a distributor of Samsung products, not a manufacturer. I used to handle both lines when I had a distributing company and am familiar with the products. GVI has an exclusive import deal with Samsung to bring in cameras under their own part numbers, but they are not an official Samsung company. This causes great confusion here in the U.S. and seems to cause confusion elsewhere. Since Samsung/GVI also imports other cameras, dvrs, etc the quality isn't always as good and that is where things get sticky since most people believe those inferior products are also Samsung products. Needless to say GVI likes to blur the relationship so that customers believe all the products are Samsung. Although GVI doesn't outright lie to people about the relationship they certainly don't go out of their way to point out that many of their products are nothing more than the run of the mill low end imports that many companies like COPS bring in.

[Bluto 0]

I really hate it when people don't get the facts straight - H.263 and MPEG4 are the same thing with different packet headers....MPEG4 part 10 is H.264.