Vaughn 0 Posted January 23, 2008 You know how copiers are designed not to reproduce certain color combonations to avoid money fraud? Is something similiar going on with wireless cameras? I am looking for a wireless camera with pinhole lense and low light, perferably on a off frequency like 434 or 900mhz. Ideally with a built in battery and mic. I can find: 2.4g with .1 lux CMOS no battery 2.4g with .5 lux CMOS with battery 900mhz with .5 lux CMOS no battery or I find great low light cameras that are not wireless at all.... I am looking to spend $200 or less too, which blows a couple options that may be out there, but I have not even found them at any price. Using a wired camera with seperate transmitter is fine for a few projects, but not relevant on this. There are toooo many batteries and wires and I could just use a full size camcorder if I did not mind the size... I will post the links for the ones I have later. Security man just released a 900mhz wireless camera to compliment their 2.4g offerings, but they dropped the camera from .1 to .5lux. So they eliminated the interference and privacy issues, but broke its light sensitivty... give the the same quality of camera on the 2.4g, but make it transmit on 900mhz... So it just seems like anyone will give you 2 or the 3 features you want but no one will give you all three.... Vaughn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rory 0 Posted January 23, 2008 Check out the cameras here: http://www.videocommtech.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scorpion 0 Posted January 25, 2008 With the price that you have quoted you have just taken yourself off the market. In that price range you are going to find stuff at Radio Shack, Walmart, and Hardware stores. They are limited because of 1. How much can you stuff in a small sugar cube? 2. How much heat does the transmitter radiate? (Alot)!! 3. Who is the customer of this product? This is designed for quick sale. You want it, and you buy it. Now you learn the limitations, and then you feel ripped off! I can take a crappy cheapo, and make it look good, and I can have an expensive one make me look like a bad installer. You have to know how you are going to use it. You have to know the limitations of the technology, and of the product. If it is in a sugar cube, or a small outdoor with IR leds, then it is probably outputting about a 100 milli watts of power. This is equivalent to a childs walkie talkie. Would you use a child"s walkie talkie in a combat zone? How far can 100 milliwatts go? The box will say 300 feet line of sight. That is the catch phrase. The antennas have to see each other. If you transmit through walls then you need to put the products closer together to keep that same energy level up so that you can see the video. Do not expect to penetrate more than 3, or 4 walls, and still have video. When I use them I am installing the camera in a workvan at a garage, or gas station. I put the receiver right at the window of the building, and then I run the video wire back to the DVR. No matter where you park the van in the parking lot you have a good energy level, and you have good video! These kind of cameras are designed for unattached buildings that are nearby. You will have power in a detached garage, but maybe you cannot run wire because of a concrete pad, or driveway. The number one misconception about wireless cameras is that they are wireless. This is false!!! Are you going to change out a battery everyday?? If the answer is no then you need to run a wire ( a WIRE??) for power. If you are running a wire then you may as well run one for video too! Do not forget that anyone can see your wireless cameras! This is a different product, but my next door neighbor has an RF device that send DVD video to another room wirelessly. I have wireless monitors, and as I was testing it one day, I saw porno on my monitor. It was not from a camera, but I was confused. My wife was not amused when I showed her, as she walked by my bench. I did some direction finding and knocked on my neighbor's door. You should have seen the look on his face when he realized he was transmitting in the open!!! Lately he seems not to care, as he I can tell when his wife is not around! LOL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaughn 0 Posted January 29, 2008 I know most of this. I did not ask for anything that can not be made (that I know of). I am not complaining about the batteries or transmittion range. My issues are with Light Sensitivity and available frequencies. Which is why I am looking for 434mhz or 900mhz instead of the 2.4g that everyone has and sees. I don't run any wireless cameras, network or video at my house. My needs are for portable applications. If you have seen any of my videos, I do a lot of RC type projects, gun turrets, etc. I guess I will just buy a seperate 434mhz transmitter... All the seperate components weigh to much for my RC cars generally. SuperCircuits and a couple places sell some seperate transmitter/receiver kits. That is all good info though. I disagree about prices though, in general you are right, but most things are over priced and good deals are always to be had. I spent $150 on my 8-channel 240fps hardware encoding DVR card and $55 each for my CCD 66ft (even better than their rating) IR weatherproof cameras. Those prices barely get you junk normally, but my setup is awesome for that price. a 900mhz wireless camera setup is about $75 for .5 lux, so I don't think $200 for a .1lux version is unreasonable. I guess I understand the tech but was looking for some shopping hook-ups if someone had some. I appriciate the info and am glad LVS pointed me to this forum. I recently bought a EB1304NET based on the recommendations read here. Thanks! Vaughn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
