historichotel 0 Posted February 4, 2008 I have a hotel that I need to install a system in. I've never done a CCTV system before, but I have enough knowledge in technology that I think can do it by myself with some advice from some experts like some of the folks that post regularly on this forum. So here goes. I've been reading the forum and it appears to me the Nuvico DV4-16000N with at least 5000GB seems what I might be looking for. The reason I picked this particular one is based on the reviews I've read from some of you. I like that it is a stand alone, can be viewed remotely, and records 480pps which I'm sure it's probably overkill, but at times throughout the evening/night, I only have one employee in the building and I like the peace of mind that I can a.) access the camera remotely and b.) have any issues that might have developed while I'm not onsite recorded. We've been robbed once and thankfully that same lady robbed another hotel the next day and was caught. It is a historic hotel that doesn't have the public area layout optimized for the front desk to view most of the space and I would like to have 16 cameras. We have quite a few antiques worth quite a bit and I worry about damage/theft of those as well. I do want a stand alone system that can record all 16 cameras. The reason behind the system is 2 fold - 1.) to keep my guests and building safe 2.) to keep my employees "honest". The system will be covering 6 entrances/exits (from the interior), a handful of basement employee areas, 1 outdoor parking lot camera, and the remaining public area spaces. So my question is whether you think this Nuvico system is all right and/or if you have any other recommendations of DVRs? Also, I'm looking for advice on cameras for this system. Much of the interior is somewhat dark (lower than average lighting, dark furniture, etc.). I'd really would like to have a nice dome camera that is fairly flexible to adapt to all the locations (except for the outside parking lot cam). I realize there are specific cameras for specific locations but I'm hoping for a fairly well-rounded dome camera. Any thoughts? Also looking for recommendations on an outside IR camera for the parking lot -maybe a bullet cam with IR? It will probably be located about 30 feet in the air on the building overlooking the parking lot. Not really interested in being able to read license plates, just to see the activity. Thanks. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lolo Wolf 0 Posted February 5, 2008 Dont mean to pry but there are strict fire codes and compliance in the Hotel industry or anywhere commercial occupancy is concerned, before you attempt to do any wire runs or LV/HV work you should make sure you are legal in the event of a problem that could arise from a DIY install. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CollinR 0 Posted February 5, 2008 It's also illegal in OK for you to install CCTV in your business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scruit 0 Posted February 5, 2008 It's also illegal in OK for you to install CCTV in your business. Must be installed by a licensed installer? I can't imagine you simply have no commercial CCTV.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RickA 0 Posted February 5, 2008 Collin does that mean that you cannot install CCtv in hotels in OK, or that it has to be done by a licensed installer in OK? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scorpion 0 Posted February 5, 2008 Curiosity kills the cat!! How in the world based on his post did you know that he was in OK?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
historichotel 0 Posted February 5, 2008 Dont mean to pry but there are strict fire codes and compliance in the Hotel industry or anywhere commercial occupancy is concerned, before you attempt to do any wire runs or LV/HV work you should make sure you are legal in the event of a problem that could arise from a DIY install. No, we're fine. I checked into that with our local building commissioner and our local police department in terms of the electrical code and legality in the event of a problem. All good. But thanks for the the concern. Also, I can't imagine it would be illegal to install a CCTV in a commercial building? From what I've been told, as long as signs are posted and the camera are in public areas -in plain site, I shouldn't have a problem. I'm not looking to have hidden camera in smoke detectors. And I'm not installing cameras on guest floors or anything crazy like that. I'm actually probably one of the few hotels in the area that has no form of CCTV installed. I've also never heard that a licensed CCTV installer needs to do the install -at least in our area. Haven't checked on that yet, could be wrong, but I appreciate everyone's concern. Hopefully we can get back on topic for this thread. I would really appreciate some equipment advice/recommendations. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
historichotel 0 Posted February 5, 2008 Curiosity kills the cat!! How in the world based on his post did you know that he was in OK?? FYI, the hotel is in Ohio, not Oklahoma. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scorpion 0 Posted February 5, 2008 In that case I will let the cat live! OHIO!! The weather is great here in Florida!! I do not envy those in the colder regions! In some cases it would not surprise me if there was something on the books where only certified alarm dealers are allowed to install CCTV. It is not to stop someone from installing them it is more about politics, and protecting your "turf", or to keep electrical installers from coming into their piece of the "money pie", or to get rid of the "fly by night installers" who create more problems, and give the industry a black eye. It could be a "city" that wants you to appy for a building permit so that they get a piece of the money pie. Just my 2 Cents Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RickA 0 Posted February 5, 2008 Ohio, my old stomping grounds, the Nuvico is a good DVR IMO. The Nuvico domes are good too and Nuvico has a very good IR bullet to go with it. I have installed all of these in various locations, when I used to do installs that is. Check out the Direct banner ad on this site they carry some of the equipment you can look into. Or there are several good suppliers in Ohio too. Hope this helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lolo Wolf 0 Posted February 6, 2008 "Also, I can't imagine it would be illegal to install a CCTV in a commercial building" Sir I was nor infering that cctv cant be installed I was only informing you of the codes and rules that do stand in some states, without knowing where you were from I thought it would be a good idea to inform you to check before you start. I am not questioning your ability but it might pay in the long run to consult with a professional installer considering you are operating a business with public access and even though there is no license needed for the install Ohio is in the process of a change, that according to the NBFAA....http://www.securityinfowatch.com/online/Standards-and-Legislation/12816SIW320 From the LV issues and following correct wire methods you still have to follow the requirements, Art. 820 if you're installing coax for a closed-circuit television in a security system, Art. 820 applies. And if you use coax to connect antennas to equipment (810.3) or to set up local area networks, you must also follow the requirements set forth in Art. 820. Im not going to go into a speech about codes but really pays to follow this rules, they are set forth for a reason....safety And I am sure you want to be safe for you customers and also not put any liability into play in the event of a acciden/fire due to a flawed install Its not so much what a local building commissoner says its what your insurance company says in the long run, and if you do get "the ok and blessing" installing LV/HV in a Hotel I would suggest you get that in writing. Good Luck and I am sure there are forum members here who can direct you to gear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
historichotel 0 Posted February 6, 2008 Thanks Rick A for the advice. I appreciate your help on the original topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebco 0 Posted February 7, 2008 I have used alot of nuvico products for my installs, Good product for a reasonable price. I think the Ir bullet 30 ft in the air is pushing the limit of the IRs. If you want to save money and don't want to pay the install hire a consultant, the money you think you are going to save you will spend it correcting the mistakes you will make. It's like fixing your own car when you never fixed one before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RickA 0 Posted February 13, 2008 Thanks, have you found what you need yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
methcat 0 Posted February 14, 2008 hopefully it's not for something like this... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
